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Alata or ventrata?

<span style='color:Teal'>Hello there!
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I purchased several months ago a Nepenthes alata. I really wanted an alata, so I found it available on E-bay and I bought it. But now that the plant is bigger and the pitchers that the plant produces are completely developed and big, I think that what I received was not an alata, but a ventrata. At least for me, both plants and the pitchers of both of them are exactly the same.

Can you help me with this identification? Is it possible that what I think is an alata it can really be alata? How can I recognize the differences between alata and ventrata?

Here is a pic of what I bought as alata:
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And here is a pic of my bigger ventrata:
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Cheers,
Jorge Joel...
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check the persimtone of the "alata". Vetrata has it a little flared because of the ventricosa in it
 
I read somewhere you can tell the difference by looking at the petiole, but I couldn't visualize the way they described it at the time. Might be worth googling.
 
<span style='color:Teal'>Oh Man, i think i was cheated.
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I was hopping that some one could tell me that these 2 plants were different, but it is plenty obvious that they are the same.

Lord, now i have to start again my -Quest for a N. alata-
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Does someone know wher i can find alata plants?

Jorge Joel...
Emilia's Garden</span>
 
Hi all:

As with everything else, anything with very little commercial value is hard to find.

Jorge Joel: I'd recommend N. benstonei, N. thorelli, N. veitchii, N. khasiana, and perhaps N. campanulata for your set up. Luckily, you find one of these first.

Gus
 
<span style='color:Teal'>Gus, thanks for your advices.
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Do you think it will be very hard to find alata?
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Cheers,
Jorge Joel...
Emilias' Garden</span>
 
<span style='color:teal'>Hello guys!  
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I finally can be sure i have a Nepenthes Alata
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Here is the first pitcher my new plant has produced:

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It may be very common to some of you, but i am deeply happy  
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Cheers,
Jorge Joel...
Emilia's Garden</span>
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] (nepenthes_ak @ Mar. 03 2006,6:46)]AS long as youre happy theirs not a problem!!
<span style='color:teal'>Oh yes, i am really happy!  
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Not only because of the beauty of this plant, but also becuase finally i can be sure i have an alata  
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