How do they make hybrids?

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Nat Trap

• Aug 13, 2003

• #1

how do they make hybrids

 

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lithopsman

• Aug 13, 2003

• #2

Hybrids of what? Usually, If you were the first to make a N. x 'Judith Finn', you would pollinate the N. vetchii with N. spathulata pollen. I can give you more detail if you explain exactly what you want to know...

 

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Statik2426

• Aug 13, 2003

• #3

A hybrid is basically when you pollinate one plant with the pollen of a plant of different species.

 

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Nat Trap

• Aug 14, 2003

• #4

Wow, so i can make a hybrid. I thought they did by genetic enginering .Can you get the pollen from a dandelion and put it on a venus flytrap and get sum kinda muntant seed.

 

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Nat Trap

• Aug 14, 2003

• #5

i cant stand that eyeball laddy

.Its nasty ew yuk

 

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Jmenprkr

• Aug 14, 2003

• #6

you have to make it of the same plant
take for instance
a vft var dente
combined with a sawtooth vft
youll get a new vft

or take a N.ventricosa
and a N.alata
and make them by getting pollen from one and pollinating the other with the other flower
then you get a ventrata

 

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Nat Trap

• Aug 14, 2003

• #7

but i read that there was only one type of venus fly trap to begin with,so how they get they dente and all the others

 

scottychaos

• Aug 14, 2003

• #8

static,
please consider changing your avatar!

I really cant stand to look at it!

Scot

 

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Nat Trap

• Aug 14, 2003

• #9

Scotty, do u know anthing about hybrids?

 

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VeiledFighter

Guest

• Aug 14, 2003

• #10

Ok that is Statik2426 that is nasty

. I believe hybrids are cross polinating different plants that are in the same genus.

 

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Darcie

• Aug 14, 2003

• #11

It doesn't have to be the same genus, as long as the plants can cross, the offspring is a hybrid.  Granted, any plant that can do this should be in the same genus, but because naming is a little weird it doesn't always work out that way.

 

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schloaty

Moderator

Staff member

Moderator

• Aug 14, 2003

• #12

Hybrids Don't have to be the same genus, as many orchid hybrids are from different genera....It has something to do with the chromosonal count....I'm not really sure what the relationship is...  Hyrbids definately have to be of the same...er..family? (is family the one right over genus?  I foget my high school biology).

 

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VeiledFighter

Guest

• Aug 14, 2003

• #13

So you can mix a nep and sarr together?

I did not think that was possible? huh

 

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Nat Trap

• Aug 14, 2003

• #14

so can i get a dandelion and fertilise a venus flytrap flower

 

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Nat Trap

• Aug 14, 2003

• #15

muntant plants

 

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Teraphage

• Aug 14, 2003

• #16

Hybrids are created by cross pollenating plants of 2 different species within the same genus. So crossing different cultivars (ie. Dente, Akai Ryu) of Dionaea muscipula (VFT) wouldn't be a hybrid. But for instance crossing different members of the Sarracenia genus with one another (like alata x psittacina) would give you hybrid pitcher plant seed. For some genuses like Sarracenia, all the species contained within that classification are able to cross pollinate each other, allowing them all to be crossed producing hybrids. For some other genus such as Drosera, not all species can cross pollinate. This has to do with the fact that typically equal numbers of chromosomes (large pieces of DNA, or genetic material) are required to create viable seed (there are exceptions to this, but they require nature or chemicals to cause a plant to have multiple copies of their chromosomes...a very rare event in nature). I have never heard of plants from differing genuses (but the same family) being successfully hybridized, although I know someone attempted to cross Dionaea with a Drosera.

 

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Nat Trap

• Aug 14, 2003

• #17

What happend when he tried?

 

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Darcie

• Aug 14, 2003

• #18

To Clarify:  Normally, only plants in the same genus can successfully hybridize because the DNA must line up fairly well.  A borderline cross produces a plant with an odd number of chromosomes that because of this can not breed in turn.  
Most hybrids however, are fertile.  

Usually the only way plants are close enough in genetics to breed is within the same genus, but because genera are defined by physical appearences and not by genetics (untill very recently) occasionally you will find plants from different genera that can create a hybrid, this does not, however, mean that any two plants can interbreed, only certain ones.

P.S. uh bad bad spelling

 

Pyro

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Moderator

• Aug 14, 2003

• #19

Tetraphage covered most of this in the most precise manner but I want to clarify some of the points and questions here:

1) You can produce hybrids between Genera, there are many orchid hybrids that are intergenic.

2) No you can not cross a dandelion and a VFT.

3) The D. regia x VFT crosses that have been made are reported to have made seed but I do not know if any of that seed turned out to be viable.

4) Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species

5) No you can't cross a Nep and a Sarr. Different families

6) The majority of hybrids in nature are not fertile