Nepenthes identification

I have two unidentified nepenthes. I'm at a loss as to what they are, but I have some info that may help.

Nep #1
Bought at Cook's CP. It is a fast growing lowland hybrid. Leaves turn a coppery color for a short while in high light. Came labeled as N. x 'Wrigleyana', but I doubt that's what it is.




Nep # 2
Bought at a local specialty nursery. Probably a hybrid, also fast grower. No label





Sorry the pics aren't very good.

Mike

Hey Monkeyman,
That first one actually does kinda look like the wrigley I have....A little hard to tell, but it has a similar growth pattern, and the pitcher has the same coloration. Can you post a close up side-view pic of the pitcher? Mine have a distict outline from the profile....

The second one....the pitcher almost looks like an all green form of N. Distillatoria....but Dist. has more pronounced wings, and an even more bulbus, er, belly?...hmmmm.