Identity quiz.

[Joseph Clemens]

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Here is a photo of some CP seed magnified 60x. Can anyone guess what might grow from these seed?

http://206.103.248.175/microscopic_photographs/mystery_seed_A.jpg</span>

[Tamlin Dawnstar]

Uhhhhhh, eggplants?

I know and you know I know (hee, hee Joseph I recognize a trap when I see one) so I REFUSE to make a comment.

Anyone else want to spring for it?

[PlantAKiss]

Dionaea muscipula is my thought. *hehehe *http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Joseph Clemens]

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>The wonderful diagnostic of seed testa. I like it. Thanks Tamlin for suggesting the possibilities. Now please get that reference publlished. *Yaahhh.</span>

[SnowyFalcon]

Most of that went over my head, but I think I caught some of it... http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

SF

[Joseph Clemens]

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Here is another one at 60x. Of course the first one was Dionaea muscipula

http://206.103.248.175/microscopic_photographs/mystery_a.jpg</span>

[wickedthistle]

drosophyllum&#33;

[Tamlin Dawnstar]

They&#39;re getting harder and harder, hee hee. *I go with Ms. Thistle&#39;s determination. I got the point, ha ha.

I can picture Pinguiculaman standing there with a &quot;P&quot; on his chest in some wild green spandex outfit with a cape, and magnifying beams coming out of his eyes.

Let em rip&#33; Spank me&#33; http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Joseph Clemens]

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Okay, you seed experts out there, see if you can idenfity these five:

http://206.103.248.175/microscopic_photographs/holding/a.jpg

http://206.103.248.175/microscopic_photographs/holding/b60.jpg

http://206.103.248.175/microscopic_photographs/holding/c.jpg

http://206.103.248.175/microscopic_photographs/holding/d.jpg

http://206.103.248.175/microscopic_photographs/holding/e.jpg</span>

[Joseph Clemens]

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>What I really think is nice about these microphotos is that they were all made with a childs toy, called the &quot;Digital Blue QX3+&quot; created by cooperation between Intel and Mattel. Sold online at Toys R Us for about &#036;50.

Sorry if this sounds like a commercial. I am just sharing something I think is a nice tool for a nice price.

BTW there is a website that gives precise guidance for enhancing the abilities of this particular device. Microscope page at Florida State University (http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/optics/intelplay/qx3techniques.html)</span>

[goldtrap2690]

The first one is vft seeds of corse , the second one looks like drosophyllum or ibicella lutea . the last picture look like they belong to temperate and american sundews .

[Joseph Clemens]

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Here is a new one. Is no one going to see if they can specifically idenfity 1-5? Goldtrap was close on some of them.

Below is another one at 200x. This one I will offer some hints on. It was discovered in my lifetime and it is a very tropical plant.

http://206.103.248.175/microscopic_photographs/holding/f.jpg</span>

[Christian Dietz]

Hi,

Here are my suggestions :

The first two pictures are Dionaea and Drosophyllum.

The pictures with numbers :

1. Drosera dielsiana
2. Drosera binata
3. Drosera nidiformis
4. Drosera capillaris
5. Drosera spatulata

How many of these are right ? I hope at least one http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

The last seed could be Drosera petiolaris or something in this complex.

If i see these pictures, i can&#39;t wait to get my new microscope http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Christian

[Christian Dietz]

Hi,

Here are two from me :

http://cephalotus.bei.t-online.de/Forum/1.jpg

http://cephalotus.bei.t-online.de/Forum/2.jpg

Christian

[larry]

Joseph, that&#39;s a great link&#33; I&#39;ve been thinking about buying the QX3 for a while, I think I will get one now http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[noah]

Joseph,

My guesses:

1. filliformis
2. D. anglica
3. capensis
4. D. intermedia
5. capensis (okay.... so I&#39;m obviously clueless...)

The last two from Christian:

D. indica or burmannii?
D. something tuberous upright.. :P

Did I miss em all?

Hmm... gotta get out my stereomicroscope and take a look at some of the stuff in my seedbank&#33; http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

-noah

[Joseph Clemens]

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Christian,

I think these are the same species:

http://206.103.248.175/microscopic_photographs/d_burmannii_1.jpg
http://206.103.248.175/microscopic_photographs/d_rotundifolia.jpg</span>

[Christian Dietz]

Hi,

Noah : My first pictures one of the two, that you suppose http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif The second is not a tuberous Drosera.

Pinguiculaman : Your first picture looks like mine. Is the second one Drosera rotundifolia ? If so, you&#39;re wrong http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Christian

[Joseph Clemens]

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Key:

1 = Drosera spatulata &#39;Ruby Slippers&#39; (Name Pending)
2 = Drosera intermedia (Actual identity - Drosera anglica)
3 = Drosera spatulata (Kansai type) same as 5
4 = Drosera capillaris (green plant, white flower)
5 = Drosera spatulata (Kansai type) same as 3</span>

[Joseph Clemens]

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Yes, Christian; my guess is that the first one of the last group is Drosera burmannii and the second is Drosera rotundifolia as you guessed. I know your second one had a longer endosperm than does my Drosera rotundifolia, perhaps it is Drosera anglica? I haven&#39;t looked at very many different seed yet. Just got the microscope. I will keep looking and taking photos. If I have any in my collection, I should eventually be able to find some.</span>

[Christian Dietz]

Hi,

Yes, the first one is Drosera burmanii http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif *The second one is no hibernacula-forming Drosera. It is from Africa.

Christian

[noah]

Hi Joseph,

Are you sure you do not have #2 and #4 mixed up? http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif The seed of intermedia is significantly coarse and bumpy, as in pic #4, and not as elongated as those in #2.

http://www.omnisterra.com/botany/cp/pictures/drosera/pics/0077.gif


According to the key, #2 looks like anglica and #4 like intermedia. I could see #4 being capillaris (the surface texture is not as highly obvious) but the ID on #2 is seems doubtfull to me.

take care. http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

-noah

[Joseph Clemens]

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Yes, you are correct #2 does not appear to be Drosera intermedia, it was orphan seed, it was earlier separated from its parent plant and kept without a label. It may be Drosera anglica. I will need to match it to correctly identified seed to be sure.

Happy holidays everyone.</span>

[Christian Dietz]

Hi,

My second picture shows seeds of Drosera venusta (coccicaulis).

Christian

[Joseph Clemens]

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Noah,

You were correct. Seed #2 is Drosera anglica.

Revised Key:

1 = Drosera spatulata &#39;Ruby Slippers&#39; (Name Pending)
2 = Drosera anglica
3 = Drosera spatulata (Kansai type) same as 5
4 = Drosera capillaris (green plant, white flower)
5 = Drosera spatulata (Kansai type) same as 3

Here are several different [i]Drosera intermedia{/i] seed to compare:
Drosera intermedia seed micro-photos (http://206.103.248.175/microscopic_photographs/drosera_intermedia.htm)</span>