Ping Mystery

I know they really need to flower before you can tell for sure. But does anyone have any clue what these pings could be?
http://home.**********.com/purplesundew/unknownping2.jpg
http://home.**********.com/purplesundew/unkownping.jpg

[Sarracenia0]

I pretty sure the first one is P. potosiensis and the second is P. 'Aphrodite'. {Terminology corrected}

Mike

Thanks Mike! I had P. potosiensis in my collection at one time so that is probably right.. nice to finally find it again. Now if I can just keep the feline out of the terrarium...

[CP2k]

I would still be very hesitant about labeling the plant as potosiensis. I have not witnessed the distinct red center in potosiensis. The plant looks exactly like my hemiepiphytica when it was still a small plant.
I am sure the second plant is not 'Aphrodite', but more likely a moranensis x gypsicola hybrid.

What about the red form pictured here http://perso.club-internet.fr/epbb....sis.htm (http://perso.club-internet.fr/epbb/pages/plantes/pinguicula_potosiensis.htm)
Could that explain the red center?

[CP2k]

The red form of potosiensis should be red throughout. One interesting observation about hemiepiphytica is that only young rosettes have the colored center, at least from the plants I have grown. Flowering sized plants do not seem to exhibit the coloration. This plant is relatively fast growing. It will probably flower in less than a year under good conditions. Then you can make an accurate id.

The wait is almost over. Today I noticed a flower stalk coming up on the Ping in question http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Here is a shot of the flower of ping #1. It's not *open yet but maybe it will shed some light on what species?

http://home.**********.com/purplesundew/ping1.jpg

[CP2k]

It is an emarginata. This only goes to show how necessary flowers are for the identification of Pinguicula.