Wrong id?

[tommij]

Hi There!

I saw this Nep some time ago at the local botanical gardens:

http://www.lihikset.net/images/nepenthes/ncocci2.jpg

http://www.lihikset.net/images/nepenthes/en-coccinea.jpg

It was identified as N. x coccinea but I'm not so sure since it doesn't look like any of the photos I've found of coccinea.

Any ideas?

[elgecko]

It's not N. x coccinea that I can tell you for sure. What it is, better ask someone else.

[tommij]

It seems to be a bit pale, propably lack of light. Not much coloration to help id.

There are a few spots inside the peristome, which seems to suggest it might be completely spotted in good light. Peristome seems to be bright red. These are lower pitchers btw.

Am I completely off in guessing it might be a maxima? Or at least a hybrid of maxima? The leaf shape seems to fit this also?

I don't have a maxima so I have to resort to the various photos on the net for figuring this out. Would be cool to send the gardens an email: Did You know that your N. x coccinea isn't actually a N. x coccinea but...

[Trent]

Hello,
Definitely not coccinea. Those are all upper traps in the pictures, by the way. From what is visible, it could be any number of maxima-mixta type hybrids. Mixta uppers are normally pretty large, and many maxima clones produce green, smaller pitchers, so it could be a hybrid of maxima x Mixta http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/confused.gif but that's guessing. Just call it "maxima hybrid" and you should be fairly safe.

Trent

[tommij]

Oops. Upper pitchers ofcourse.

[Starman]

Where are the lower pitchers? http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/confused.gif Could we please see a pic of them too?
Dino http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_n_32.gif

[tommij]

Sorry, no pictures of the lower ones.

Here's one I found that shows more of the leaves: http://www.fmnh.helsinki.fi/nayttel....nea.jpg (http://www.fmnh.helsinki.fi/nayttelyt/ktp/sisalto/kasvihuoneet/Nepenthes_x_coccinea.jpg)