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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Farmer Dave @ Oct. 29 2006,3:55)]my P. 'Sethos' looks like yours but is a little bit more of a rusty color and has much less leaves(does any one know why?).
    Being unfamiliar with the precise conditions you are keeping you plant in --- a correct diagnosis would be somewhat difficult. Usually it is a matter of "balance" in terms of the environmental factors the plant is subjected to. Almost any factor, or group of factors, can be responsible for the present appearance of your plant. If its getting enough light to develop a pink/reddish blush, then I would tend to rule out light. I would think of the other factors, factors that the plant needs in order to utilize the light it is getting. Does it capture lots of prey? Or is it starving for nutrients? Is there suitable free moisture in the media? Is the media open enough to provide good aeration of the roots? Etc.



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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Joseph Clemens @ Oct. 28 2006,8:07)]BTW you can revise the label on the one to, Pinguicula 'Huahuapan'. It does match the standard for this cultivar and it was an error on my part to write the label as a "var" of moranensis.
    Joseph,

    I am pretty sure "Huahuapan" is a location, not a cultivar
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    Pyro,
    Following is an excerpt from the CP Database concerning this cultivar.

    It was registered on my birthday, in 1998 by Adrian Slack:


    "N: $[Pinguicula ' Huahuapan ' {Hort.Slack}]
    P: Insect-Eat.Pl. & How to Grow Them:110 (1986)
    S: =[Pinguicula moranensis {H.B.K.}]
    HC: Registered 10. 11. 1998 (JS)
    Nominant: A.Slack
    Introducer: A.Slack, from Huahuapan, Mexico
    Registrant: A.Slack
    Description: Insect-Eat.Pl. & How to Grow Them:110 (1986)

    "(...) Thus, in [Pinguicula ' Mitla ' {Hort.Slack}] the purplish to carmine pink (corolla) lobes are so narrow as to give a spidery appearance; they are rather less so in [Pinguicula ' Huahuapan ' {Hort.Slack}], and of lilac pink with crimson touches at their base. In [Pinguicula ' Vera Cruz ' {Hort.Slack}] the flower is of similar form to [Pinguicula moranensis {H.B.K.} var.caudata {(Schlecht.) Hort.Slack}], but it is of deep rose with more substantial basal marking."

    Standard: Insect-Eat.Pl. & How to Grow Them:110 (1986)
    Etymology: after the locality from which the plants were collected
    image: pinguicu/loyd37: plant with flower
    image: Check Bob Ziemer's Photo Finder"



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    Well based on that I guess it is safe to say it is actually both. Guess I should ammend my growlist
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    Actually, isn't "Huajuapan" the location? Just that somebody heard "jua" and it's pronounced "hua" so they did "Huahuapan"? When you search "Huahuapan" on google images, it says "Did you mean Huajuapan?" And that is apparently a place in Mexico (or in that area).

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    It gets pretty good coloration, and catches quite a bit of bugs, It has the same soil as all of my other cps, so it might not be getting enough root aeration

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Pyro @ Oct. 30 2006,9:17)]Well based on that I guess it is safe to say it is actually both. Guess I should ammend my growlist
    But, curious though, I've seen too many completely different plants labeled as Pinguicula moranensis var. huahuapan, and other inaccurate variations. Seems that some spell it Illuahuapan, among other spelling variations. Aparently it is actually spelled Huajuapan, though that is only the contemporary spelling. It seems difficult to determine which, if any, are the actual cultivar, I have little confidence that the link in the CP Database, which appears to be of Pinguicula rectifolia, is actually the cultivar, since it bears little resemblance to the actual cultivar description and the published description identifies it as being derived from Pinguicula moranensis. I certainly wish I had obtained a copy of Adrian Slack's book, where this standard is published, among others, back when they were more readily available.

    BTW, if anyone has a copy of the particular publication where the standard for this cultivar is located and you are willing to scan it and send me a copy to compare my plants against, I'd be very grateful.



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    Hey Joseph,

    I have IEP, I'll look at it and bring it in tomorrow for a round with the scanner.

    As for the Illuahuapan vs. Huahuapan, I have both and they are, to my eye, very different plants. Odd that I never really caugfht the similarity in the name, I just figured they were both seperate localities...
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