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    Ok, here's a question on leaf pullings....
    do any of you trim down the leaves of some the narrow leaf ping species and hybrids before propagation?

    I'm talking about P. moctezumae, P. gypsicola and their hybrids.

    Many times it seems that the leaf dies back before producing plantlets, so i thought it might be good to trim the end?
    Some of these leaves can be 4-5 inches long!

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    Quote[/b] (pingman @ Dec. 21 2006,8:25)]Ok, here's a question on leaf pullings....
    do any of you trim down the leaves of some the narrow leaf ping species and hybrids before propagation?

    I'm talking about P. moctezumae, P. gypsicola and their hybrids.

    Many times it seems that the leaf dies back before producing plantlets, so i thought it might be good to trim the end?
    Some of these leaves can be 4-5 inches long!

    Peter.
    With Pinguicula gypsicola, no. With others, no. Ziploc bags come in several sizes, thank goodness.
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    Somewhat related experience:
    When I was showing off the first bloom of my new hybrid, (Pinguicula agnata (CSUF) x Pinguicula moctezumae), I inadvertently dropped it to the carpet in my living room. When I picked it up I noticed that most of the mature leaves were damaged and falling free of their attachment to the stem. So, to be resourceful, I collected them, cleaned them off, and put them in a small ziploc bag with a little dry perlite. Since several of the leaves had been broken into two or more pieces (long, narrow leaves), though I had no expectations for those pieces not having a portion of petiole to initiate plantlets from, I put them into the ziploc anyway. Wow, every piece formed plantlets, even those that were, effectively, leaf tips. The plantlets formed on the proximal ends of the leaf tips, as might be anticipated, and not the distal end.

    I have so many leaf-pullings in various stages of development I honestly don't need any more efficient technique, yet. Perhaps you could try this with other species / hybrids / cultivars and let us know if it works with others besides my new hybrid.



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    Joeseph, very interesting on your "dropped" plant! I've always wondered if plantlets would sprout other than the basal end of the leaf. I guess it does!

    Your ziplock bag method is a good ideal for these long leaf types. It worked well with my P. gypsicola.
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    I could also be asking these questions! 2 weeks ago I gleaned leaf pullings from 20 species and crosses, including a P. moctezumae x kores and a P. gyspsicola. I have them all in slightly moist media, in baggies, in a closet at room temp, about a foot away from a 30W fluorescent light. I'm not seeing much in the way of leaf disintegration, and it's propabaly a little too soon to discern plantlets... but I'm hoping!

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    Don't worry, as long as the leaves aren't too wet, it's very nearly a sure thing.
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    Jimscott, it took about a 3 weeks before i saw any plantlets on my P. gypsicola. Now 2 weeks later there are little plants and the original leaves are starting to fade away.
    I have not added any water to the baggie, it's fairly dry or just barely moist!

    Good growing!
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    Then perhaps I shall see the same in another week or two!

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    Oh jim, you must introduce me to this gleaning thingy.
    Lois
    Every seed that you plant ,doesn't sprout.
    Every seed that sprouts, doesn't make it to maturity.
    Every cutting that you stick doesn't grow roots.
    Every cutting that roots doesn't grow to a small plant.
    Every small plant doesn't reach maturity.


    Who needs speelcheck?

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