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    Propagating P. Gigantea

    I have a Gigantea that's not doing so hot. It's in a 4" round plastic pot, a perlite heavy mix, and is about 6" wide.

    However, it did just start sending up a flower stalk for the first time, right around the same time the P. moranensis did, so it must be happy in some way, right?

    Anyway, my question is -- does P. gigantea self? It's a species and not a cultivar, right? So doing up seed of it wouldn't be counterproductive?

    Would it be wiser for me to just take a cutting or pull and try that way? I've had horrendous luck with getting Pings to strike. Wikipedia suggests leaf cuttings, I am presuming they mean standard leaf pulls? I've never had any intentional leaf pulls take, even using my prop chambers (covered pots).

    How big does P. gigantea get, anyway?

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    Not easy to tell according to my own experience. I always try to do it by myself.

    I noted at home that the P. gigantea "lilac flower" from Stan Lampard I grow never selfpollinate but the P. gigantea "white form" produce seeds by self pollenisation sometimes (very few).

    I cross both and produced many seeds that germinate easily. These plants are adults and flowered light lilac. Now I have various clones I try again to crosspollinate to have more seeds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantrell View Post
    How big does P. gigantea get, anyway?
    I think it's variable, but my largest clone has hit 17 inches leaf span and leaf props given to other growers have gone well over a foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantrell View Post
    I have a Gigantea that's not doing so hot. It's in a 4" round plastic pot, a perlite heavy mix, and is about 6" wide.

    However, it did just start sending up a flower stalk for the first time, right around the same time the P. moranensis did, so it must be happy in some way, right?

    Anyway, my question is -- does P. gigantea self? It's a species and not a cultivar, right? So doing up seed of it wouldn't be counterproductive?

    Would it be wiser for me to just take a cutting or pull and try that way? I've had horrendous luck with getting Pings to strike. Wikipedia suggests leaf cuttings, I am presuming they mean standard leaf pulls? I've never had any intentional leaf pulls take, even using my prop chambers (covered pots).

    How big does P. gigantea get, anyway?
    I just produced a large amount of seed from a selfing of P. gigantea AL#3 sure enough it was viable as I have 75+ seedlings progressing past the cotyledon stage. It is a violet flowered form. I would refrain from selfing your gigantea if you say it is under stress...

    Propagating P. gigantea from leaf pullings is easier than most Pinguicula species in my experience. I use the method described by Joseph Clemens, also known as the paper towel method:

    1. Pluck leaf from base of plant
    2. Place leaf in paper towel
    3. fold paper towel in half over leaf LOOSELY
    4. place in warm, dry place out of direct light (On top of my refrigerator has been my best spot)
    5. Check weekly; once you have plantlets produced move the leaf to your standard media and wait for roots. The point at which you move the leaf to moist media, it will start to rot but thats OK just keep it monitored.

    I have a leaf that I am currently propagating in this method; I will take a picture of it later today.

    P. gigantea gets as large as its individual genetics and your growing environment will allow

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    I could use a hand-pollinating course. All my attempts, including ripping off flower petals, have failed.

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    I have been wanting to produce a step by step process much as what is available on pinguicula.org but perhaps with better images. I learned from the outline on pinguicula.org as well as numerous failed attempts. I will work on this as it seems many individuals are frustrated with ping pollination.

    I also have seedlings of P. sp. "Koehres" x 'Aphrodite' - I am really excited to seed the progeny; low amount of seed produced from the cross but the seedlings are growing very well so I remain hopeful.

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