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    Another fake 'Wesser'

    I got this Pinguicula labeled as P. 'Wesser'. It flowered. Verdict: another "fake" 'Wesser'




    Compare with the real deal:
    http://wjclemens.com/cp_standards/pi...ser_Sethos.htm
    http://www.vicbrown.cpuk.org/images/...ula/Weser1.jpg
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    Hey Number,

    Excuse my ignorance on pings, which I freely admit that really don't know much about at all. But I too have received a p. 'wesser'. How does one discern a real p. 'wesser' from a fake?

    Thanks...

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    Considering there's so much diversity among moranensis flowers, wouldn't it be possible (or probable), that even though you were to cross a moranensis with an ehlersiae(and vice versa), there naturally would be genetic diversity between siblings when it comes to flower morphology?
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    9 times out of 10, if a plant is of questionable origin, the flower will discern and conclude/ refute what the plant really is. In this case for example the white inner parts of the petals are not identical to 'Wesser' which lacks this trait. You just have to know what the real deal looks like and compare to what you have.
    I'm sure NaN can give you more details about this one though then I can Hermo, I'm like you and have little knowledge about Pings.

    Quote Originally Posted by blokeman View Post
    Considering there's so much diversity among moranensis flowers, wouldn't it be possible (or probable), that even though you were to cross a moranensis with an ehlersiae(and vice versa), there naturally would be genetic diversity between siblings when it comes to flower morphology?
    Ya Bloke, basically a bell curve.

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    P. 'Sethos' and P. 'Wesser' are clones of specific plants from one pair of plants. Read Slack's description of them:

    "Of these (hybrids) I would mention [Pinguicula ' Sethos ' {Hort.Slack}] ([[Pinguicula moranensis {H.B.K.}] * [Pinguicula ehlersiae {Speta & Fuchs}]]), a fine, very floriferous clone with large orchid-purple flowers with a many-rayed mouth like a white star; [Pinguicula ' Weser ' {Hort.Slack}], of the same parentage and with rather similar flowers, has a solitary white streak down the central lower lobe and dark veins."
    These traits are stable with clones of the original two plants. Simply crossing P. moranensis and P. ehlersiae is not going to yield either P. 'Sethos' or P. 'Wesser'.

    Compare to the flower of a Pinguicula I received labeled as P. morranensis x ehlersiae a few years ago:
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    Interesting, thanks!
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    http://terraforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114907

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    I got mine from Pinguiculaman, so mine's gotta be the real deal. Mine have never flowered, though, so...

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    jim,
    is that the weser I have?
    SK-8 OR DIE

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