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Thread: Is This the Same As Schultz' APS?

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    Those bacteria only work if theres ammonia to convert into nitrite and nitrite to convert into nitrate.
    And you get ammonia from rotting organic materials.
    Without all of that the bacteria just die.
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    Diazotrophic bacteria can fix nitrogen to ammonia directly from the atmosphere.
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    I know that... at least in the saltwater world... any type of substrate/sand that is marketed to contain any beneficial bacteria is BS. The conditions in a closed bag are not the proper ones to keep anything like that alive, especially if it's been on the shelf for any period of time. So I have a feeling that this is probably the same case here. If you want to be extra careful, however, all you should need to do is let the media dry out for a day or two under the sun to kill any aquatic organisms that were once living in it.
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    Once the conditions are good for those bacteria they'll come back anyway.
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    FWIW, I've used 3 different brands of APS, all of them "smoked" the first time you watered them... not sure of the process but it appears mechanical somehow. It only does it on initial contact with the water

    It doesn't do it after the first time, or at least after there is some moisture present

    I'm a big fan of the stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Av8tor1 View Post
    FWIW, I've used 3 different brands of APS, all of them "smoked" the first time you watered them... not sure of the process but it appears mechanical somehow. It only does it on initial contact with the water

    It doesn't do it after the first time, or at least after there is some moisture present

    I'm a big fan of the stuff
    That's exactly what happened - intial fizz. It's the morning after and they don't look any worse for the wear. Hopefully, nothing will change for the worse.

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    The "smoke" is ceramic dust forced out of pores by osmotic/capillary pressure as the clay hydrates. If you let a lot of it collect on a moist surface, it's like very thin wet clay. It does that the first time it's wetted, and then if you let it get bone dry and handle it for a while, it'll do it again to a lesser degree when it's exposed to water again.
    Scared the crap out of me the first time.
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    Scared me as well! I thought maybe it was the bacteria acting like self-rising yeast.

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