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    Is This the Same As Schultz' APS?

    I couldn't find Schultz' APS but a nursery that specializes in pond stuff was recommended by a several people. They didn't have Schultz' APS. either, but had this brand:



    I repotted many of my pings into this and when the pots hit the water there was this fizzing noise and I could see "smoke" emanating from the pots. Is this normal.... or did I just sentence most of my ping collection to death?

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    fizzing can occur if air is trapped inside the rock crevices, happens all the time when dealing with rocks of that nature like lava rock. if it has all those crevices and pores to maximize surface area, you can bet that there is air trapped. that being said, im betting you didnt even submerse your rocks underwater. take a small sample, pour a little vinegar on top of it. fizzing will tell your it's calcareous which may/may not be harmful to your pings.

    the whole "pre-colonized with beneficial live ie: nitrifying bacteria" idea worries me though.
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    You mean that smoke was in the air or in the water ?
    If there was actually coming smoke out of them that sounds to me like some chemical reaction.
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    They're doomed!

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    Nah, pings dont need roots imho
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    i dont understand why it would do that though---it says neutral pH, so whatever the smoke is, it's not an acid-base reaction. a metal would give you that kind of reaction if you poured water all over it. O.o


    as a tropical fish hobbyist, you know always to rinse and wash the substrate before using it (unless directed not to)
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    Should be fine, but YMMV. I get the same thing all the time working with fresh or dehydrated APS. I've found that fresh APS needs to be "seasoned" by keeping it moist for a week or two before using with Mexipings. If you plant them in it too soon, it causes them to rot away. Just personal experience haha. You always have backups growing, so hopefully you can spare a few for experimentation with the new mix.

    On a random side note, I've been growing succulents (Crassula and Sedums) in 100% APS without any seasoning required. Those plants are allowed to dry pretty thoroughly before rewetting, though....

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    The beneficial bacteria is my concern, especially if they are nitrogen fixing bacteria. Otherwise the material is the same as Schultz's - Fullers earth and silica/quartz:

    http://www.microbelift.com/files/701...TING-MEDIA.pdf

    Do they sell it without the bacteria?

    Edit: looks like it is nitrogen fixing bacteria:

    http://www.microbeliftshop.com/Micro...cts-sc-20.html
    Pre-Colonized With Beneficial Bacteria! All Inert Ingredients!

    No Fertilizer, Compost, Peat or Pesticides! 100% Natural Minerals!

    Kiln Fired!

    • Ideal when potting aquatic plants
    • Retains oxygen
    • Enormous surface area perfect to colonize beneficial nitrifying bacteria
    • Allows mixing any ratio of loam to planting media
    • Nontoxic to plants
    • Will not break down, float or cloud pond water
    • Safe for all fish and aquatic life


    Contains no nutrients
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