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    Candice324,
    Very interesting thread. I wish you every success in establishing your Pinguicula colonies. I hope to see updates showing good progress as your endeavor progresses.
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    Joseph, If you are going to be adjusting nomenclature then shouldn't the Genus and species names be changed to be italics too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobile View Post
    Joseph, If you are going to be adjusting nomenclature then shouldn't the Genus and species names be changed to be italics too?
    pwned.

    this is an incredible thread and idea. P. gypsicola grew well for me until a certain point where it pooped out on me... booo. i need to get my self some leaf pullings and start my own rock. if anyone has leaf pulling available PM me pronto as i know they are just starting to wake up from their winter phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glider14 View Post
    pwned.

    this is an incredible thread and idea. P. gypsicola grew well for me until a certain point where it pooped out on me... booo. i need to get my self some leaf pullings and start my own rock. if anyone has leaf pulling available PM me pronto as i know they are just starting to wake up from their winter phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Clemens View Post
    Candice324,
    Very interesting thread. I wish you every success in establishing your Pinguicula colonies. I hope to see updates showing good progress as your endeavor progresses.
    thank you!
    I just wished they grow up as fast as I'd want them to be, so I can update on them..

    ooh, also I won't capitalize the name of Pinguicula after 'P'. had no idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by glider14 View Post
    i need to get my self some leaf pullings and start my own rock. if anyone has leaf pulling available PM me pronto as i know they are just starting to wake up from their winter phase.

    Alex
    I agree!
    btw, when do they start waking up from their winter mode?

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    Somewhat , but appropriate to almost every topic:
    Quote Originally Posted by mobile View Post
    Joseph, If you are going to be adjusting nomenclature then shouldn't the Genus and species names be changed to be italics too?
    Italics would be better than not, but it is also most appropriate to also include the original author's name after each species name, but the author detail is usually (but not always) reserved for writings of an official scientific nature. Here on the terraforums, as long as spelling, abbreviation, punctuation, and capitalization are correct, we can be fairly certain that, if the correct plant is associated with its correct name, then our purpose is served. If posters also choose to use italics and even the annotation of authors, that is also acceptable, though not essential.

    A secondary effect I hope for, is that posters learn about nomenclature as it concerns plants.

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    I was so inspired, while in town yesterday I stopped at my local Lowe's store and purchased a 25 lb bag of DAP Plaster of Paris, the smallest size they had in stock. Today I looked online at the MSDS, to discover that the product is composed of 55.0-65.0 % Calcium Carbonate, and 35.0-45.0 % Calcium Sulfate, hemihydrate.

    My plan is to mix various amounts of this DAP product, with perlite, peat moss, sphagnum, silica sand, and vermiculite (possibly other media ingredients), even a small amount of iron oxide. Then to moisten it, let it set, and test its ability to act as a lightweight substitute for natural Pinguicula substrates. I envision filling small pots with this media, forming small planting holes in the mix, as it sets. I am a little apprehensive that the Calcium Carbonate component of the DAP Plaster of Paris may have an adverse affect on the plants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Clemens View Post
    I was so inspired, while in town yesterday I stopped at my local Lowe's store and purchased a 25 lb bag of DAP Plaster of Paris, the smallest size they had in stock. Today I looked online at the MSDS, to discover that the product is composed of 55.0-65.0 % Calcium Carbonate, and 35.0-45.0 % Calcium Sulfate, hemihydrate.

    My plan is to mix various amounts of this DAP product, with perlite, peat moss, sphagnum, silica sand, and vermiculite (possibly other media ingredients), even a small amount of iron oxide. Then to moisten it, let it set, and test its ability to act as a lightweight substitute for natural Pinguicula substrates. I envision filling small pots with this media, forming small planting holes in the mix, as it sets. I am a little apprehensive that the Calcium Carbonate component of the DAP Plaster of Paris may have an adverse affect on the plants.

    that sounds sooo awesome! I used up more than 70% of my plaster, just playing with them. I also ran out of my peat moss(10 quarts), so I would need to buy one more baggie of it to make more rocks. I am planning on making large rock that can sit outside balcony during summer (this would be for P. gypsicola, and P. medusina only) that can also look almost like a sculture . So far, I've made enough medium to small 'rocks' for my future P. moctezumae babies, and also P. medusina, and P. gypsicola. (from leaf pullings). Would you post up photos of your rocks with lots of plants on them once you are done??
    I am happy to report that my P. moctezumae and P. medusina, so far, looks very very happy I will post the progress next week

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    also, about plaster mainly being composed of Calcium carbonate, I will have to check my pH on my rocks this weekend, but since there are peat moss mixed in along with long fiber moss, I wonder if it will help offset some of it? A lot of Dart frog peeps use concrete to make their rock walls for vivarium, and they typically cure their rock walls(very Basic) in vinegar to leech out lime, and this leaves the rock's pH more neutral. But considering others have successfully kept their P. gypsicola for many years in plaster rock, I am guessing it won't harm the plants *shrugs*
    my P. moctezumae and P. gypsicola look pretty happy!!(oh, i said that already)
    Last edited by Joseph Clemens; 02-11-2011 at 08:38 PM. Reason: Nomenclature adjustment

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