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    Quote Originally Posted by boxofrain View Post
    I have to say that the Nortensis is actually found in Del Norte County, California.
    Even the name of the subspecies "nortensis" is based on "Del Norte" county.
    That's where the holotype of the subspecies was found.

    Quote Originally Posted by boxofrain View Post
    Specifically, the Smith River drainage, within the Siskiyou mountain region. ( part of is which within the Oregon border)
    I have hiked my whole life in this region, the last couple of years I have been looking at the CP's native to my area., I have yet to find Nortensis on my (Oregon) side of the border.
    Even though the North Fork of the Smith ventures into Oregon near Chrome Creek, and bordering the Kalmiopsis Wilderness area in Southern Oregon.
    My plants are originated from a nursery in Germany which is out of business today ("Plantarara"), they had listed them with the location data "Oregon, USA". As I have heard, the ssp. nortensis plants look a little bit different in each location where they can be found.


    Quote Originally Posted by boxofrain View Post
    Gasquet, Ca. is the place to see the Nortensis in situ.
    I think that's where nearly all the in situ pictures on the Internet are taken. On many in situ pictures I can see, that the leaves can become red when exposed to higher levels of sun.

    The leaves of my ssp. nortensis plants stay all green, no matter how many sun they get, I've never seen a bit of red on the leaves (except a flush of red/brown on very few outer leaves of winter buds). On photobucket I have created an album just for pictures of my cultivated P. macroceras ssp. nortensis plants, if anybody wants to take a look:
    http://s973.photobucket.com/user/lac...?sort=3&page=1
    (not only nice flower pictures, but also crippled flowers, winter buds, dead winter buds, leaves and so on)
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    I live in Iowa and am having success with grandiflora.My biggest issue with them has been not mulching them because of mild winters and then BAM below freezing temps and I am back to scrounging up a few gemma that survive.
    Last fall I mulched my single hibernacula under 12-14 inches of pine needles and oak leaves.This spring I harvested 20 gemma from it and they are doing great.They're in a mini-bog I can move around.

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    I Live in Central Florida. I have P. Caerulea, Lutea, Pumila, Planifolia, Primulflora and Ionantha. I grow them in sphagnum in standing water and keep them outside all year and they all do well.

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    Those who grow outside, what are the temperate highs for summers in ur area, also do u grow pings in as much direct sun as possible, or shade, and I need some recommendations for how to harden off ping grandiflora for outside life, do most people use tray method or just top water when needed? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkey_Cup View Post
    Those who grow outside, what are the temperate highs for summers in ur area, also do u grow pings in as much direct sun as possible, or shade, and I need some recommendations for how to harden off ping grandiflora for outside life, do most people use tray method or just top water when needed? Thanks
    We get temps in the 80s and 90s during summer and occasionally hit 100 here just outside Portland, Oregon, and low humidity. My P. grandiflora and macroceras pings grow in full sun most of the day and then shaded by sarrs in late afternoon. Some get a little less sun and some a little more depending on where they are located in the bog. I don't think they do as well in mostly shade and seem to like lots of sun. They are growing in a top cover of moss and seem to do better for me that way. The soil directly under them is peat/sand/pumice or perlite (the rest of the bog is a peat/sand mix).

    I can't address your acclimation/watering question as I have always grown mine outside in an in-ground bog year-round and not in pots. I can say that they don't seem to care if they are flooded for a few days in a row at times during spring and winter, and I do flood the bog about once a week during summer.

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