User Tag List

Informational! Informational!:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 9 to 15 of 15

Thread: Pinguicula giganta

  1. #9

    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    396
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hey Vic might I suggest you try a 12"-14" plastic saucer?
    You know the kind thats made to look and feel like terra cotta, nice and thick.
    I use these and just drill holes in the bottom for drainage, I mainly use them for my Bulbophyllums (my favorite orchid genera).
    FWIW

    Peace
    Peace

  2. #10

    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    France near German border
    Posts
    25
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hi all ,

    I grow another Ping. that is sticky on both sides.
    It's name is Pinguicula sp. Synalta,Mexico (have no more info about it)
    It's also bigger than a P.gigantea , that I also grow. This Synalta is usually twice as big as gigantea is ...

    Agnata is also known as being sticky on both sides...as here in Europe (France) we have at least two ssp. of that plant that got thoose glands under the leaves. I tried one day to feed the plant that way , it ... do ... not .... stick ... enough !

    Congratulations to Sarracenia0 for it's buddies [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img] , I never had leaf-repro-"luck" with that species ...

    good grow !

    Patrice
    Patrice - France

    Worlds too big to be discovered !


    my site : http://carnibank.be

  3. #11

    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Central Coast of California
    Posts
    3,928
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Thumbs up

    WOW! twice as big a gigantea? that's like, two feet! if you ever get to propogate it, please pm me. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]
    - Spec73 [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

  4. #12

    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Southern CA, US
    Posts
    1,058
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Pinguicula 'Synalta' =form of P.gigantea. I have never seen or heard of any mexican ping sp. that grow larger than a full-grown gigantea(10-14in). Apparently, the origins of P.'Synalta' is unknown. Even Alfred Lau, who was the first to discover P.gigantea, had never heard of the name 'Synalta'.

  5. #13

    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    France near German border
    Posts
    25
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hi all ,

    I dont wanna have reason in all cases CP2K , but that "Synalta" is indeed twice as big as the gigantea forms we yet have in France....Maybe our climate is not that good to obtain a full-grown gigantea (I never heard about "french" gigantea-seed...)

    regarding the name Synalta : I do know the story...and yet have no more info about that plant.
    You seem to be shure that this synalta is a form of gigantea. How can you ? (it's just a question...)
    I heard about this plant in Germany , in Japan , and that's all....its also mentionned in N.Inaho's "wonderful world of pinguicula" , but is mentionned as being a "species that looks like gigantea" , nothing more. I searched the net for info about that plant , none nowhere. I'd like to _attach_ that Synalta to the Gigantea group , but have the need of some precise info before doing it definitively.

    Thanks for help

    Spectabilis73 : oh , I would if I could ! Since 5 years I have that plant now , but I never experimented a succesfull leaf-repro , as or the Giganteas I tried to reproduce...I have no chance with that group...But I expect some divisions for next summer , as I had this summer (sorry , everything is away...)

    Thanks all

    Patrice
    Patrice - France

    Worlds too big to be discovered !


    my site : http://carnibank.be

  6. #14

    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    Southern CA, US
    Posts
    1,058
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Based on the pics and info I have heard about P.'Synalta', the plant is very similar to P.gigantea. What feature of P.'Synalta' distinguishes it from P.gigantea? How big is P.'Synalta' exactly? I have heard that the P.gigantea grown by Phil Faulisi was ~14in. Personally, I have seen large giganteas(10in and larger) at California Carnivores. Just a thought...maybe 'Synalta' is Ayautla labeled incorrectly. I have seen plenty of incorrectly labeled pings over the years.
    Some mistakes tend to be small, while others are big(i.e. I received plants of P.'cordatta', which is incorrectly labeled plants of moranensis var. caudata).

    Have you tried the leaf cuttings in a semi-coverd terrarium under grow-lights? I have not had very much success with leaf cuttings outdoors, but I have had high success with leaf cuttings in terrariums.The high humidity/light might help the leaf produce plantlets [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

    Thanks for the info

  7. #15

    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    France near German border
    Posts
    25
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hi All , CP2k ,

    [/quote]What feature of P.'Synalta' distinguishes it from P.gigantea? [/quote]

    hum....someting I would call "winter to summer grow-factor"....what I mean by that is the difference in diametre between winter and summer form , interresting with this two "species" as they have the same leaves in winter and in summer.
    This "grow-factor" is about 50% for my giganteas , as it is only something aroung 25 to 30% for the Synalta (it stays big even in winter : 22 cm = 9 in , while my gigantea mesures : 10 cm = 4 in now...in summer they have : 28 cm = 11 in for synalta but "only" 18 cm = 7 in for my gigantea...)

    also the flower is "different" : she's smaller than gigantea's , for about 30%...maybe also some other "details" we have to "discover" first


    [/quote]maybe 'Synalta' is Ayautla labeled incorrectly.[/quote]

    yes....that's right that there are many misslabelled Pinguis (but also Neps and Droseras...)... I don't know.
    I'm living in France and we made some important researches about pings and their different origins , and we found alot of that kind of thales (P.cordata...) , but nothing regarding taht Synalta
    See this page for info on our work :
    http://dionee.gr.free.fr/index2.htm

    It's important for us to find out any info source about that kind of plants (mislabellled , false ID and others...) , as there is a book on Mexican Pinguis on the working bank , on wich our webmaster is working on with Dr. A.Lau (who'll also come to France and the end of this week for spending a few days in our collections )


    [/quote]Have you tried the leaf cuttings in a semi-coverd terrarium under grow-lights? [/quote]

    yes...on many soil-media : oganic , non-organic , with no-soil , under lights , fresh , warm....nothing works.....I grow all my Mexicans under artif-grow-lights + natural light , nothing to do with that group , they don't want to sprout !!! all did but not gigantea nore Synalta....

    I don't know what else I could try...but , no matter if a plant "resists" , nobody can be successfull with every plant....

    see you

    Patrice
    Patrice - France

    Worlds too big to be discovered !


    my site : http://carnibank.be

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Similar Threads

  1. New Pinguicula
    By carnivorkid in forum Butterwort (Pinguicula)
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 04-09-2011, 04:32 AM
  2. Pinguicula Yucca Do 1714 is actually Pinguicula cyclosecta?
    By jimscott in forum Butterwort (Pinguicula)
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 03-17-2011, 08:50 PM
  3. Pinguicula gracilis & Pinguicula rotundiflora
    By jeff 2 in forum Butterwort (Pinguicula)
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 03-07-2011, 08:13 AM
  4. Pinguicula planifolia vs. Pinguicula primuliflora
    By Ping Pong in forum Butterwort (Pinguicula)
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-24-2006, 09:12 AM
  5. us pinguicula
    By jeff 2 in forum Carnivorous Plant Trading Post
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 06-04-2006, 12:04 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •