|...that even this link Pinguicula 'Sethos' is not Pinguicula 'Weser', but rather it is Pinguicula 'Sethos'.[/QUOTE]|
You mean the link of 'Weser' is not 'Weser', but rather it is 'Sethos' [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]
I believe this is true also, but it is hard to tell because of the lighting.
I wrote a note to Barry (sarracenia.com) last week telling him about this discussion in hopes that he might interact. If so moved, some of you might drop him a note asking his opinion on the 'Weser'/'Sethos' confusion.
As many persons, I bought plants from garden centers (Dutch nursery at the origin). The plants are very often mislabelled.
When you do a crossing, you have many differences between flowers in the result. If you choose one nicer for exemple, this one can be published as a cultivar. This way, the only possibility to multiplicate is via cuttings only. A new seedling will do many other things not the parent.
Officialy, you must see the picture in slack book "carnivorous plants and how to grow them" :
P. 'Weser' has the solitary white streak on the lower central lobe
P. 'sethos' don't. It is closer than a white spot in star (I don't have the true english word sorry).
In Dutch nursery, they did the first croos of Slack and saw all the seeds and give to all he plants the name 'weser' !
It is false. You can buy the original and true clone in J.J. LABAT, NATURE ET PAYSAGE Nursery. He bought it from A. Slack himself many years before.
His nursery is a worth to see, and he is a really botanic professional.
Here is the link. He do worldwide mail but it is not possible yet to buy on-line. http://www.natureetpaysages.com/
So you are reporting that hundreds or thousands of unique clones of the hybrid Pinguicula moranensis x Pinguicula ehlersiae and/or Pinguicula ehlersiae x Pinguicula moranensis have been distributed as Pinguicula 'Weser'. Now that is some real sad news.
I would be very interested to have the opportunity to observe the "standard" images of these cultivars from Adrian Slack's book (Insect-Eating Plants and How to Grow Them), but alas I am unable to locate a copy of it.
Tucson, Arizona, U S A
Thanks to Eric Partrat's assistance in sending me a scanned copy of the "standards" image of these two cultivars from page 113 of Insect Eating Plants and How to Grow Them by Adrian Slack, I compiled this page:
Weser vs Sethos or is it something else
It is now enabled, I am claiming "fair use".
Apparently the "standard" supports the description in the text very well. Neither cultivar appears to have "pink" flowers, nor do the written descriptions support "pink" flowers. I am in doubt about the ID of the plant I had obtained as Pinguicula 'Weser'. I once thought it might be Pinguicula 'Sethos', but since seeing the "standard" for that cultivar I believe it might just be an unnamed cultivar of the hybrid Pinguicula moranensis x Pinguicula ehlersiae.
Last edited by Joseph Clemens; 12-15-2007 at 10:42 AM.
Tucson, Arizona, U S A
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