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    In a discussion with a fellow grower I leardned that he uses crushed coral as the primary ingredient for his Mexican Pinguigula species. I though this an odd choice but when I looked at his plants I saw that cuttings I had given him were easily 3-4 times the size of the plants I had made the cuttings off of. With this in mind I have decided to switch up my mix. I purchased 10kilos of crushed coral and washed it till the water ran clear then soaked it with 4 changes in 24hrs. Next I mixed in vermiculite, charcoal, perlite and clay pellets to about 10% of the total mix. I will follow up here with updates on how the plants are doing if you all are interested.
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    Huh.. so your saying it is about 90% crushed coral with just a little of the other things mixed in.

    When I have received Pings from overseas they appear to be growing in some sort of chalk.
    Maybe I will fiddle around with radical mixes.. for the most part the ones I have been using don't work well with my current setup for the Pings.
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    I hope the experiment goes well. It would be interesting to see if these plants can grow better in the crushed coral.
    Most of my plants grow in mixes with at least some peat and perlite. I have tried to grow some plants on inorganic mixes and they grow slower than plants on a mix with some peat. I rarely see any of my pings catch any prey because they are in outdoor terrariums. Maybe the peat is supplying the plants with some nutrients so these plants grow faster than the ones in the inorganic mix.

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    Sure the plants with peat (or other organic adding) grow faster but if your plants may be stressed by heavy temperature or nematodes attack or spider mites..., in inorganic media, they have stronger roots and then are stronger to resist bad conditions.

    I have a friend that grow all his Pinguicula on classical peat and sand mix that lost ALL his collection in august with these unusual hot temperatures. Mine suffered also same heavy temperatures but ALL are alived and didn't stopped to grow. Maximun temperature reached in my shaded greenhouse : 46 C !
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    Tony,

    Yep 90% coral, the rest of the stuff is in there mostly because it was the last of it and I figured I could just get rid of it that way and also I thought it might add a little moisture retention. My friend says that he thinks it is the calcium in the coral that the Pings benefit from. When I was repotting I also discovered that the plants he had given me (prepotted) were in his coral mix and they have always done much better than my other Pings in a more organic media. I also thing the loose nature of the media helps. I have also heard that peat can actually stunt the growth of the Mexi-Pings.

    One week in and the plants are all looking great, no real obvious improvment but no decline either.
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    Hehe, Pyro forgot to mention top watering with this method. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img]

    Tony,
    The chalky substance that you received with the pings was most likely chalk. People use that to add calcium into there mixes when things like dolomite are hard to find. Very similar to the idea of using crushed coral.

    I've had a few pings growing fine in a mix similar to this from Pyro's tips for a few weeks now, top watering is basically a must. But other than that the plants seem to like it. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]
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    I did forget to mention top watering but I also leave the pots in trays with water in them and I usually only top water when the trays dry out and let the flow through just sit until next time
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    I am doubtful that peat stunts the growth of mexican Pinguiculas. Personally, the Pings that I have seen at Cal State Fullerton(under Leo's Songs care) and at CalCarn were grown in mixes with large portions of peat, but with good drainage. These plants were absolutely huge and producing tons of flower.
    I grow my pings under cool temperatures(20-30C days, cooler at night) and I have yet to lose a plant to rot. As long as the plants are not kept under hot and humid conditions with stagnant air, they should grow well.

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