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    The photographs below are the first to be published of this Pinguicula, known by the code name YuccaDo1713 (ABG 97-1713 Yucca Do 60-19-031695 to give its full code). For a full discussion of the YuccaDo plants see the article by Travis Wyman (Pyro on the CP forums) at A World of Pinguicula http://perso.club-internet.fr/cpartr...do_complex.htm

    I'm not qualified or expert enough to judge whether or not this is a new species, or a white flowered form of a known miniature mexican, like P. esseriana or P. jaumavensis for example. Although I grow most of the likely suspects, and it doesn't look the same as my plants, I only grow a single clone of each which doesn't take into account natural variation in these species. Any opinions on the ID, expert or other, welcome.










    Close up of throat, to show purple veins.




    And from behind



    Larger, more detailed files can be found of the first two images here:


    http://www.cpuk.org/~vicbrown/images...ccaDo1713a.jpg

    http://www.cpuk.org/~vicbrown/images...ccaDo1713b.jpg


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    One thing I would like to note is that the rosettes of this plant do develope a red/pink tint under good light. Taking this into account I do not think this plant is an 'alba' form (i.e. pigment free) but I do not discount that it could be a pale flower form.

    I have noticed flowers coming up on my clones of this plant as well as the very similar Yucca Do 1717. I will add my pics here if there is anything noticably different between mine and Vic's
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    My plants of 1717 and 1713 are also starting to flower along with esseriana, gracilis, ehlersiae(couple forms including alba). I will be sure to compare flowers and post pics.

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    It doesn't look anything like my P. ehlersiae 'alba' (or other forms of this species), my plants are a different shape, with larger, more rounded lobes, have no purple veining and are much less hairy in the throat.



    P. gracilis looks nothing like it, the lower lobe is much larger than the others;



    The most likely candidates are P. esseriana (left) or P. jaumavensis (right), and I'm leaning towards a very pale flowered P. jaumavensis with 1713, but I am not a plant taxonomist. Some experts consider these two to be the same species, which if so shows considerable variability.



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    Vic, this is what my Pinguicula Yucca Do 1713 look like:



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    I seem to be able to grow and propagate them readily, yet blooming them still eludes me. I recently read where someone, I think it was "epbb" was only able to bloom certain Mexican Pinguicula once he reduced their light levels. I guess I will need to try this. I notice that the plant in the background of your flower is an overall green color, which, to me, indicates lower light levels. What illumination would you say yours are growing in?




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    Doesn't look like my gracilis or ehlersiae alba either after comparing the flowers to the photos. Has anyone flowered the the alba form of esseriana?

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    I haven't seen a photo of the white-flowered form of P. esseriana on Bob Z's CP Photo Finder. The only picture I've seen is P. esseriana 'white-flower', it doesn't really have the level of detail to make comparisona with the 1713 flower though.

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    Cripes Joe. That is gorgeous! It's like a "sqamosa" effect with the red and green reversed.I wish I had something to trade for one.
    What are you growing that one in?

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