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    I know everyone does things differenetly but there must be some general guidlines I'm just not following.

    Heres my situation. I've killed two P. morenensis plants within a few months of getting them! I now have a P. laueana (sp) and I sure don't want this to go down the same road!!! I am currently growing this palnt on a windowsill since the rot started as described below. I also have a few seedling Ping which are doing OK for now but if my past performance is any indicator of my future succes, I'm doomed. I have only been succesful with P x sethos (Correct form for cultivar names: Pinguicula 'Sethos') which is growing in pure peat.

    So here are my conditions. I grow all of my plants in my basement under a 1000 watt grow light. The humidity is quite high for my Neps. I don't have a circ fan but the humidifier has a fan and moves the air around a little. The temps are lowland nep range in summer and highland nep range in winter.

    The Pings do the following. They look good for a week, tray method and sand/peat/vermiculate mix. Then the leaves start to turn brown and rot till there isnt anything left.

    My guess is that its too humid and not enough circulation for these plants. The rot must be some sort of fungal attack.

    Help, I'm very frustrated.

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    My advice is to take leaf cuttings everytime you get a new ping, put them in a sterile container of peat with decent lighting and they should produce baby plants.... [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img] That way if the original plant dies all is not lost

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    I think your mix may be overly wet. I have better results with a very inorganic mix of sand, perlite and a small amount of peat. I do not use the tray method, and my mix remains moist to slightly damp. This seems to promote good root growth.

    Also a 1000 Watt metal halide sounds like overkill if the plants are at all near the light.

    I highly suggest the use of a fan to improve air circulation.

    Hope this helps.
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    I have had had trouble with P. moranensis too. I got the plant about a year ago from California Carnivores, left it in the same pot, and grew it in a tray with water, just like they do at CC. However, my growing conditions are different -- outdoors in a tropical climate under shade. What happened during the past year is the plant has gotten smaller and smaller. It started out with a diameter of about 4 in, and is now down to about 1.5 in. It is the incredible shrinking plant. Maybe there's a movie idea in there somewhere. There are approximately the same number of leaves on it as before, though, and it looks kind of cute, actually. Maybe I have invented a CP bonsai. Well, I wasn’t too interested in seeing how small it would get, so I replanted it in LFS a couple of weeks ago and took it out of the water tray. I now water it every other day. It seems to be doing better, but it could be just my imagination.

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    Tropics,

    Sounds like your plant is possibly going dormant or resting. I keep mine nearly dry when they rest.
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    my morenensis is im a mostly peat based mix and im watering using the tray method so its constantly wet. its growing like a weed. my lights arent as intense as yours as i am using four 32 watt four foot florecents. and its not as humid. dont know why its doing well. i have a Darlingtonia growing fast right beside it in conditions that going by the book should kill it. i say take cuttings and get a nice lil collection of babies and try out different locations.

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    Just to add contrast and confusion, I was given some sethos cuttings this spring and I planted them open tray, keeping them by a south-facing window. I wouldn't say that they grew like weeds, but they did grow. I had no complaints. When my plants were evicted from the lab I took them home and put them outside. Nothing happened immediately, but over the summer they just "melted" to nothingness. I don't know why. I thought they would do better outside with direct sunlight, but I was wrong. I recently received several more Mexican pings and have them in a similar set up as the one in the lab - open tray, window sill. All survived shipping and are "greasy". One is flowering.

    If I'm not mistaken, Tamlin and Pinguiculaman are on opposite poles in ping cultivation - with comparable success. Now that's scary - especially to newbies. I'm scared! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_k_ani_32.gif[/img]

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    Don't be scared. MAny plants flourish under a variety of protocols. What is needed is to sense the interplay of all the conditions, and adopt the optimal one in your instance. All cultivation advice is by nature egocentric, and must be viewed with an open mind as to possible improvements. In this case, the plant is not flourishing under a specific set of conditions. This mandates that the conditions be changed. If he ws to have stated that the plants were nearly dry and wasting away, I would have suggested increasing the watering schedule. You have to play it by ear, and feel for the most likely factor affecting the plants. In my conditions, Pingiculamans protocol would result in rotting plants, and has! Possibly my mix is not as clean, or I have root mematodes where he does not: the unseen can also effect the equation. Always take cuttings with these plants and reproduce them against loss. Having more plants means you can experiemnt and hopefully strike the idea balance for your conditions and habits.
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