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    Eric, you nailed it! See folks...even master growers like Eric mix and match until the right mix works for the right conditions. I follow those exact same guidelines in my greenhouse. In fact I often move trays around to take advantage of better microclimates even if they register only a degree or two difference. It makes ALL the difference in the world.

    Eric....I was having trouble with both P. moctezumae and P. oblongiloba until I added less peat to the mix and more LFS. In fact all of my P. oblongiloba are grown in very shallow, well drained plastic bonsai dishes filled with pure NZ LFS. I keep them on the drier side or just damp and in cooler, conditions than the other type species. So far they really like this and are blooming beautifully. Well....they were blooming. I have another bad habit that I must admit.

    I routinely remove flowers and developing buds from most all of the Mexican pings during the extreme heat of summer and early fall months. Everything goes. Flowering is stressful enough for some species without having to add the horrors of ghastly hot summer weather. The plants, in MY collection, truly appreciate this and grow so much better. Besides....I get far better flower quality in the late fall and winter months and pollen seems to be riper during this time as well.

    I tried repeatedly for years to make sib crosses and selfings with all of my P. hemiepiphytica and P. zecheri during the spring and summer months with 0 success rate. Then I tried again during the winter when the blooms were bigger and more vibrant and voila! Every pod developed successfully. Could be just my conditions during this time of year that the plants feel most fertile. But I now restrict all crosses to the winter. I don't know if this is unique to other growers but it's working for me.

    And just to add more confusion to the mix.....I grow my P. gypsicola in 50/50 peat/sand and they get just huge and beautiful. No special additives, no vermiculite or gypsum. But again..this method could spell disastor for another grower. So work with your conditions until you hit the right combination and stick with it.

    All the best.

    Phil

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    Phil, I haven't seen a Mexican ping flower yet, since Christmas - and it was an inherited flower! I have all of mine on SE window sills and water 3X per week. Do you have any helpful hints. The leaves on most of them are pinkish-red and "greasy".

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    Jim,

    I don't want to be quoted on this, but I think most of the Mexican Pinguicula would like a night time drop in temperature. If you grow any highland Nepenthes try growing them along with these. I have a 14' x 24' unheated greenhouse that drops down to 50-55 deg. F every night (during the summer)...even with outside day temps upwards of 100. During the winter months the GH can get as low as 35 deg. F at night and the Mexican pings look their absolute best! I have literally hundreds of flowers on the plants.

    I think your light levels and watering schedule are probably fine, although I don't know what species/hybrids you are growing and what medium you are growing them in, but definitely try some cooler temps and see if that helps. I exerimented with a few by placing them in my lowland Nepenthes grow chamber and all the plants grew very large, very pink/red, very greasy....but no flowers. For 1 full year...no flowers. And the siblings of these plants in the greenhouse bloomed almost year round....or they would have if I had refrained from cutting them all off. I don't know what other indoor growers (lights, windosill) are doing to get their plants to flower. Perhaps some of them could pipe in with their comments.

    Hope you find some useful information here.

    Phil

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    no soil mix for any CP is THE mix. heck the way i grow Darlingtonia leaves most shaking their heads in disbelief. before i knew any better i grew my Mexi-Pings in pure peat cause thats what i had. 2 years later those plants are still doing extreamly well. anymore i use an airier mix using more perlite but thats about it. slight variational differences between where you grow your pings and where someone else grows theirs can make a huge difference in what works and what doesnt as far as growing mixes and such. another member here has wonderful luck growing some of his Mexi's as darn near aquatics for part of the year and they are doing absolutly great for him.
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    Hi Phil,

    Here is a copy & paste of my Pinguicula list:PINGUICULA:
    primuliflora
    'John Rizzi'
    'George Sargeant'
    'Sethos' (moranensis x ehleresia)
    agnata x moranensis
    agnata
    esseriana
    ehleresiae
    tina
    rectifolia
    luscitanica
    emarginata (leaf cuttings)
    jauvensis (leaf cuttings)

    I believe you discerned the missing ingredient to this mystery, or at least one variable I haven't considered. They are all indoors and don't experience much of a day/night temperature differential. Thanks!

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    Jim, im getting mine to bloom under flourecent light on a regular basis, but they do see a temp drop at night of about 15-20 degrees. not sure if this helps yah or not. i am keeping the house comfortable for me and not my plants, however my highland neps and my Utrics in general love it
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    LOL! no, that confuses the matter. Gee, I get scapes on sandersonni blue and I can't get a simple Mexican ping to bloom. Oy vey!

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    oh you did get it to bloom finally. now what do i have to tease you about? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]
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