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    Quote Originally Posted by rattler_mt View Post
    keep in mind......other than a hand full of the "common" species like reniformis, humboldtii, alpina, nelumbifolia and nephrophyla few ppl are working with these groups...... Pyro and i seem to be 2 of the main sources of plant material here in the states and we can only produce so much.....especially since most of my plants originate from him........
    Just so. Also, something to bear in mind is that these plants are not like your typical Utrics growth pattern wise. They do not grow fast. 2-3 small divisions per year is doing well with them.

    everyone seems to WANT to work with them until they actually find out its alot more work than reward.......
    Indeed they are a lot of work. Hopefully there will be a CPN article out in the Dec issue that covers some of this and will help for other interested growers. I personally find the flowers reward enough but they can be few and far between.

    i swear they would be more interesting to serious orchid growers than the average CP grower........
    Absolutely!! That was actually how they got into cultivation in the first place.


    There is a chance one of my alpina clones needs thinning. I am slammed from now till Tuesday but I'll check and get back to you then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyro View Post
    There is a chance one of my alpina clones needs thinning. I am slammed from now till Tuesday but I'll check and get back to you then.
    That'd be great! Please send me a pm whenever you're ready...

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    i agree with yah on the flowers being worth the headache.......but i also was growing orchids for several years before i started with CP's.....i was also one of those that took an instant liking to Utrics and up till a major disaster had 100 pots of Utrics a few years ago.....most CP growers are younger and started with CP's first and seem to be more interested in "instant gratification"......note i said most.......that or they just want plants like jamesoniana or campbelliana just because so few ppl have them.....reguardless if thy know how to care for them or not because they want to "one -up" their fellow CP'ers, you see the same sort of thing with the rarer Neps

    the Iperua section is usually faster growing than the Orchidioides section(notable exceptions being ive seen the alpina x endresii as well as alpina grow like a weed and reniformis is being very slow for me)......the large clone of humboldtii i have is a VERY fast grower for me and seems the most likely to flower if i can get it to quit roasting the flower stalk in the lights.......12 flower stalks in the last year, all fried......
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    12 Flower stalks?!?! That's amazing. I've heard that humboldtii is a very slow grower. I'm ready to put in the time for flowers on epiphytic utrics.

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    there seem to be a few quirks with humboldtii.................the large clone i have seems to prefer a different soil mix than the other type.........also it likes room to run......it grows fast if given room.......ive got a huge mass of stollens sub surface....FAAAAAR more than the amont of leaves would indicate......reniformis is similar in that reguard but more so....most ppl have a humboldtii that seems to be the bromeliad dwelling type. the large clone that i got a hold of last year seems to be a terrestrial type that loves heavier soil and doesnt mind getting a tad dry between waterings......
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    Yeah, I'd like a bit of that large clone someday....

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    its spreading to different ppls collections....IIRC it was only collected in the late 1990's early 2000's..........Pyro and i each have it, having recieved it from another grower last year......i sent a couple divisions out this year, plan on sending(read trading) more out next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyro View Post
    Just curious if you have any experience with the Orchidioides group? Because if you do not then you are going to want to hold back on campbelliana for certain and probably endresii and asplundii. If you have never grown them before then start slow with alpina and see how you do. If you have difficulty with that you won't be able to grow any of the others in the group.
    Now to me, that's a little bit scary, since I went through a few attempts to keep U. alpina alive. I still have the seedlings. They are still alive and green, but not doing anything exciting. I treat them like my Ceph - minimal watering, tall pot, SW sun exposure, open tray.


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