I was trying to sell these guys but I have had no hits on them. If anyone would like to trade for one just holler at me. I need to get rid of these two as the third and my adults are going to my sister. I cannot send her those until I get rid of these because I am using one heating system for all 5 snakes. I would prefer nepenthes, but would consider anything. This is not first come first serve. I will consider all the offers.