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Thread: Giving Back: SASE N. Deroose Alata cuttings

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    I am sure some of you know this, but that plant is N. ventrata.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Griffin View Post
    I am sure some of you know this, but that plant is N. ventrata.

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    The Deroose alata is alata x (alata x ventricosa).... technically it's ventrata, but they call it Deroose alata. Confusing, ain't it?

    The Deroose nursery once sold it as alata, hence the name.
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    There is no proof it's N. ventrata x alata, only people on forums perpetuating that they think this is what it is.

    There really isnt all that much N. alata evident in the plant which is common for first generation N. ventricosa hybrids. Consider also that this plant has been around since the early 1980's. N. ventrata was registered in 1979. There isn't enough time in my opinion to cross N. ventrata back to one of it's parents then grow out multiple different clones to find one that would suit the Dutch nursery and produce and market thousands of large plants in hanging baskets by the early 1980s. Deroose still markets to this day as N. alata, which simply denotes that N. alata was the female parent based on their history of keeping things labelled as the female plant. This says nothing about the male parent though. The greatest likelyhood is that it was simply a N. ventricosa as the male parent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Paroubek View Post
    There is no proof it's N. ventrata x alata, only people on forums perpetuating that they think this is what it is.

    There really isnt all that much N. alata evident in the plant which is common for first generation N. ventricosa hybrids. Consider also that this plant has been around since the early 1980's. N. ventrata was registered in 1979. There isn't enough time in my opinion to cross N. ventrata back to one of it's parents then grow out multiple different clones to find one that would suit the Dutch nursery and produce and market thousands of large plants in hanging baskets by the early 1980s. Deroose still markets to this day as N. alata, which simply denotes that N. alata was the female parent based on their history of keeping things labelled as the female plant. This says nothing about the male parent though. The greatest likelyhood is that it was simply a N. ventricosa as the male parent.
    I see. Very interesting, and thanks, Tony!
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    No problem.. You could also say there is no proof that it is N. alata x ventricosa just as easily. Deroose has never come out and said what it is and probably never will. ;< I just wish they would at least change the label!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Paroubek View Post
    No problem.. You could also say there is no proof that it is N. alata x ventricosa just as easily. Deroose has never come out and said what it is and probably never will. ;< I just wish they would at least change the label!
    I'm actually still perplexed, most nurseries list Deroose Alata separate from Ventrata, some even charge more for it!

    I've accepted that what I had earlier is definitely not an N. Alata and I have no idea why the nursery listed it at regular N. Alata 'Red Blush'.

    Tony want to make a thread and call everyone to post pics of their ventrata/D. Alatas?

    We should settle it here on TF for the CP community to see.
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