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    Looking to trade for S. oreophila, but ridiculously specific

    Update: NEW YORK MEMBERS ONLY
    (Thx, Cthulu!)

    This is a shot in the dark, but does anyone have a division of S. oreophila that they'd like to trade for? (I think that trading across state lines is legal, just not selling, correct?)

    I'm afraid what I have to offer may be the limiting factor... One or more of the following, depending on the size of the available division (if any takers)

    1) Nepenthes alba (3" pot)
    2) Nepenthes 'Lady Pauline' (rooted cutting, 4" pot)
    3) Sarracenia 'Doreen's Colossus' (small division)
    4) large unidentified Ping
    5) large Drosera 'Marston Dragon'

    If this is of interest to anyone IN NEW YORK , please PM me, thx!
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    Trading across state lines is illegal Jonny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu138 View Post
    Trading across state lines is illegal Jonny.
    Ahh... thanks for the clarification! OP changed, with thx!

    Well then, any takers specifically in NY? If so, send me a PM...
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    There is a nursery located in Virginia that has the permit to sell endangered Sarracenia, though they are rather expensive.

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    I don't see how a nursery can have a permit to sell S. oreophila when plants of it are not to cross state lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whimgrinder View Post
    I don't see how a nursery can have a permit to sell S. oreophila when plants of it are not to cross state lines.
    The ICPS has a permit that allows them to "sell" ESA/CITES seeds in the USA. These permits are from the Fish and Wildlife Service that enforces the Endangered Species Act.

    US Fish and Wildlife Service Permits

    Recovery and interstate commerce permits are issued to allow for take as part of activities intended to foster the recovery of listed species. A typical use of a recovery permit is to allow for scientific research on a listed species in order to understand better the species' long-term survival needs. Interstate commerce permits also allow transport and sale of listed species across State lines (e.g., for purposes such as a breeding program).

    Permit Fact Sheet
    Permit FAQ

    See also Endangered Species Act - Exceptions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio View Post
    There is a nursery located in Virginia that has the permit to sell endangered Sarracenia, though they are rather expensive.
    Hi Bio! Yes, indeed, but unfortunately, they're sold out... But I do appreciate the response...

    NaN, thx for the links and info!

    And again, sorry for the confusion. I had thought that they were only barred from crossing state lines if it involved a payment (commerce), whereas either a giveaway or a trade were legal, but that was apparently wrong. Good to learn!

    Added: (Seriously, really glad for the info. Truly do NOT want to break the law, inadvertantly or not.)
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    Let me know if you don't have any luck. I can probably bring one to the fall NECPS show for you if you plan on going again.

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