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    Agreed... I've been on the forums since 2004 and so many of the Mods that are listed are just gone. I have never had a trade go sour but I also think that the deadbeat list needs to be updated. This is a hobby for some of us but it is also one that we put a lot of hard work into and we don't need to be ripped off when it can be prevented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu138 View Post
    My comment was to intentionally light the proverbial fire under the *** of those Mods who are still paying attention. It relieves me to see that at least some of you are still awake.

    I still however think it's time for some fresh blood with the Mods on here.
    Some of us could do with out your condescension. You had an issue with one Mod and so you chose to make a very public bash at all Mods. Airing out your personal grievances in such a public soapbox manner is not cool. Nor is it particularly tactful.

    Also, I can tell you one person who is always "awake": The Admin. At any point along the way you could have sent him a PM with your concerns. And yet you chose not to. So, rather than lashing out at everyone else for failing to do something about a matter they were not aware of, maybe you could own up to your own failings in the matter.



    Quote Originally Posted by Whimgrinder View Post
    I still think an updated deadbeats list would be useful.
    [QUOTE=kahnli;1158912I have never had a trade go sour but I also think that the deadbeat list needs to be updated. This is a hobby for some of us but it is also one that we put a lot of hard work into and we don't need to be ripped off when it can be prevented.[/QUOTE]

    We cannot update the 'deadbeat' list if people do not report bad trades. I hear, and have acknowledged, the comments about inactive Mods but the fact remains that there are Mods who are active and can be contacted and the Admin can always be contacted. So a lack of names being added to the 'deadbeat' list cannot be place solely at our feet. If you are having issues with a trade then please contact one of us
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    Pyro covered it pretty well. But just to reiterate: if you don't report it, we don't know about it. All the mods are seeing this instance because someone reported the issue (I will note, that it's not anybody involved in the thread).

    Please report problems to us! Having an up-to-date deadbeat list is good for the health of the entire community. You can always contact us with a heads up if you're worried that a trade may go south (excessive delays, etc) just to put it on our radar.

    A helpful hint that general users may not know: When you use the report a PM/post/thread feature, an automate email is sent to all mods and the admin. This can be a good way to make sure you get the first-available person. It also generates a thread in the mod forum where we can discuss the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu138 View Post
    After a few PM's between pearldiver and myself we have concluded that it was indeed the same person. It is a member going by the name "gr8oz". It's possible that this person is still active on here under a new name so keep your guard up people and spread the word about any deadbeats that we have lurking the threads here.
    I'm all for getting that person onto the deadbeat list then.

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    Just to finish up or whatever, one trade with this person went well some time ago, after that things went sour. There was communication for a time, so I thought it would eventually suss itself out. I guess not.

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    Not to be a thorn here, but the "deadbeat" list has not been updated since 2009. I find it difficult to believe that there have been no reports regarding unscrupulous traders since then. Perhaps there wasn't sufficient evidence to ostracize them by adding them to the list, but I can think of several off the top of my head who were effectively banned for this reason, so there must have been knowledge of these instances.

    I have no problem with simply banning the offenders, but shouldn't we do away with the thread altogether if that's the case?
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    I understand both sides of this debate.
    I have had 2 reports go unchecked. Didn't think about bubbling it up farther but you can get quickly discouraged when a report(s) goes unchecked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu138 View Post
    After a few PM's between pearldiver and myself we have concluded that it was indeed the same person. It is a member going by the name "gr8oz". It's possible that this person is still active on here under a new name so keep your guard up people and spread the word about any deadbeats that we have lurking the threads here.
    I also had an agreement with "gr8oz" for some Genlisea earlier this year; I sent his plants but I have not received anything for 5 months now (last I had heard, it was "too cold to ship"). I already messaged Andy about the situation... I'm sad to hear that this happened to more than a few people.
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