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    Quote Originally Posted by Whimgrinder View Post
    I see no point in doing a remake of Predator, but that's just my opinion.
    Ahhh - but that's the one opinion that matters. 8^)

    Although it's not like pollen from these species is available very often, I'd love to see N. hamata paired with some of the other true toothies - like N. villosa or edwardsiana. While I know very little about genomics, these crosses may tell us something about how closely they are related ...

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    This is a serious case of that "so close, but yet so far" feeling.
    Yes but with Paul's conditions, I suspect another opportunity will come along in the not-too-distant future.
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    Hey Paul, can i make a plea on Facebook for pollen for you or has this already been done? there are a lot of growers there that dont frequent the forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pebes View Post
    Hey Paul, can i make a plea on Facebook for pollen for you or has this already been done? there are a lot of growers there that dont frequent the forums.
    I don't participate in Facebook, so no - the quest for pollen has not gone out to that particular branch of social media. You can pursue that if you wish - I'm indifferent. (But thanks to you should it result in success)

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    Something else to consider is that there have been very few hybrids done where hamata is the female parent. Reversing a cross such as ventricosa x hamata, for example, could give valuable insight into what differences there are between having the hamata being the male or female parent. Who knows the results could even be more than "mediocre". At any rate, any sort of hamata hybrid would translate into a boat-load of cash for you.

    It is your plant, however, so you are inclined to do as you wish with it.
    LOOKING FOR: N. (argentii x bicalcarata) x {[(lingulata x edwardsiana) x (naga x hamata)] x [(klossii x undulatifolia) x (aristolochioides x rajah)]} Growlist: http://www.terraforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=124586

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexenthes View Post
    Something else to consider is that there have been very few hybrids done where hamata is the female parent. Reversing a cross such as ventricosa x hamata, for example, could give valuable insight into what differences there are between having the hamata being the male or female parent. Who knows the results could even be more than "mediocre". At any rate, any sort of hamata hybrid would translate into a boat-load of cash for you.
    I'm not interested in letting potential financial gain motivate me to make a hybrid I don't care about. I gotta be interested in the results to be bothered doing it. I've got a male N. ovata in bloom right now and a male N. boschiana as well. The latter is something I am considering using. We all know what great progeny boschiana makes
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    I totally understand, more props to you if you are in the position to make such a decision anyway.

    N. hamata x boschiana would almost certainly not be mediocre (at least to the majority of enthusiasts). If you can't find the male hamata, I don't see why that romance shouldn't occur.
    LOOKING FOR: N. (argentii x bicalcarata) x {[(lingulata x edwardsiana) x (naga x hamata)] x [(klossii x undulatifolia) x (aristolochioides x rajah)]} Growlist: http://www.terraforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=124586

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    What! Bosch is nice and all, but I couldn't pass up Hamata x Ovata! At least there would be some chance of retaining the teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambanja View Post
    What! Bosch is nice and all, but I couldn't pass up Hamata x Ovata! At least there would be some chance of retaining the teeth.
    Christian,
    I've seen enough hamata hybrids to know that the teeth are rarely retained to a significant degree, no matter what you cross it with. N. ovata is a fairly squat pitcher whereas N. boschiana is much more elongated. Since I prefer long, thin pitcher forms (preferably displaying a waist), the hamata X boschiana option is immediately more appealing to me, since I doubt either cross would have much in the way of teeth anyway. (I'm thinking of J. Harris's pretty-but-toothless N. spectabilis X hamata)

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