User Tag List

Informational! Informational!:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 8 of 26

Thread: Polocies of the trading forum

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    N'awlins
    Posts
    313
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Locking the last thread was wrong, imo, so I started another. Feel free to delete it if you feel you must, but that wouldn't be right.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ] This was not meant to be a debate.
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ] END of conversation.
    I apologize, but I have an opinion and I feel that I deserve to say it. You are a mod, if you feel my post breaks the rules, then feel free to delete it, I will not scream and banter about censorship, but I still think that my opinion is valid. This is a public forum, everything is a debate.

    Point in case. I am making a bog garden this spring. I fully intend to make a post asking if anyone has any extra bog plants. Should I have waited to give away all my pygmies till then so I had something to "trade". No, I was given the seed, and I will not make it a requirement for someone to trade me something for it. Some did, some didn't, and thats great, but to hold onto them for another 3 months and keep them out of the hands of others for that period of time is wrong. I want them to bring joy to others as they did me. Also, certain people might not have gotten their first pygmie because I am "holding" out for a trade.

    I do agree, beggers can be agrivating, but I myself am not a begger. I have helped EVERYONE that has helped me, and I know a few people can attest to that. I have been generous to the fullest of my abilaties and to think if I made a post asking for anyones overflows of bog plants to be begging is down right insulting.

    Another point, I have an extra D. Cap right now. Do I feel its significant enough to make a topic on? No, but if someone asks for it, I would respond because I know someone is actually looking for it.

    One of the greatest aspects of this community is the generousity. To say that this is strictly a "TRADE" forum seems to take something away from that.

    What about the 14 year old that doesn't have much money but has an interest in Cp's? He doesn't have anything to trade, and lets be realistic, the freebies go to the lucky few that happen to see the post in time. So is he to hang on the computer 24/7 in the hopes of being one of the lucky few to jump in quick enough? So he doesn't get started in this great obsesion and he moves on to another hobby because he couldn't make a post saying "Hey, I'm a newbie and would like to grow a few cp's, anyone have any extra" and we lose one more person. Who knows, that kid could have been the next Tam.

    Putting up with a little agrivation far outwieghs the risk, in my humble opinion.

    Casper

  2. #2
    cool85k5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Georgia U.S.A.
    Posts
    1,530
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Wink

    Thats right,but I wont say anything this time.Well I think I will,if its ok to give plants/seed for free,why is it wrong to ask if anyone has some for free?


    Jerry

  3. #3
    Copper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Hastings NE
    Posts
    2,215
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hmm, a valid point.

    May I make a humble suggestion. The 'begging' does bother some. The asking does not bother me, but the begging does. That is I have even received PMs that are almost (or more than almost) demanding in nature. This is annoying, but the asking (once) is not.

    My suggestion is this. Would it be possible to pin on thread to the top where people can ask (still not demand!) for plants and those with extra can check. I know this thread could get HUGE, but it could be cleared out from time to time. The trading or giving threads could go on as they have. This is my simple suggestion. I do not know if it is a viable idea.

    Thanks
    Rose
    I am just like a Super Hero, but without the power or motivation.................and the funky suit.

  4. #4
    Copper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Hastings NE
    Posts
    2,215
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I should reiterate. Those that I have had trades with, or given plants to, do not be afraid to PM and ask if there is something on my list you like. Also if your growlist is small do not be afraid to offer. I do not have many of the common plants, ie. anglica, and will never be insulted by such.
    I am just like a Super Hero, but without the power or motivation.................and the funky suit.

  5. #5
    Tony Paroubek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    Far Away NY
    Posts
    4,640
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Casper you missed my point ENTIRELY from the last thread. I would also advise you not to go starting a new one when a previous one was locked. Now to address your issues. I did say it was fine to post a message if anyone has extra plants. PROVIDED it is not a post asking/begging for free plants. I did not say a trade post must have items for trade. Although odds of finding what your looking for are much better when an offer is visible to the readers.

    Example of appropriate trade posts.
    Anyone have any extra Sarracenia for my new bog garden. Let me know and we can work out a trade! (perhaps include what you have to offer in return)

    Example of inappropriate post.
    Anyone have any extra Sarracenia for my new bog garden for free or for shipping?

    The first post your making an effort to give in return. IE TRADE
    The second post your trying to get something for nothing.

    You have extra seed/pyg. gemmae whatever.. Want to give it away fine go ahead. Post you have it and your giving it away. If you don't think your one plant of D. capensis is worth posting that you have it for giveaway then don't. Personally I don't think it matters if you have 100 or 1. If you have something you want to give away then post. If it's not worth your trouble to post that you have a single plant to give away and would rather wait to 'respond' to someone begging for a free plant then that's your perogative. Begging posts however detract from the forum, are rude, they upset some people that regularly give away plants (the moderators have received messages expressing such concern), and push legitimate posts from people trying to organize trades down the list.

    Also bear in mind:
    This is a trading forum not a beg for free plants forum. CLEAR?[img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif[/img]
    This is a private forum and it has rules. It is not a public forum.
    The previous post was not for debate. There had been a large number of people making posts recently that they want free stuff and I addressed it.

    Tony

    I will leave this post open for now but I do not want this to turn into an argument or a major debate. It is quite simple and clear. Posts looking for free goods are inappropriate in this forum.



    Is that a Nepenthes in your pocket or you just happy to see me?

  6. #6

    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    N'awlins
    Posts
    313
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Then we shall agree to disagree.

    Casper

  7. #7

    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    578
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Hey Guys,

    ok... so. The trading post was set up to do just that "trade". There was a clear gap in the world for people to do legit trading of their private collections. We've been VERY light on the rules around here, but what you don't see, is what the mods and Admins and MOSTLY myself have to deal with. When people come in here ASKING for stuff... FREE stuff without a trade, I get my mail box full in about 20 minutes of complaints. Most saying "This is rude, you should delete the topic". Generally I agree that it's rude but I almost never delete a topic... so I've let it go.

    There's a large number of people who do trades on here all the time and quite a few that just post free stuff for anyone. So I think the point is, Casper, is that when people blatantly ASK for stuff, it's starting to look pushy and disrespectful. Imagine what the people that offer free stuff on occasion feel. Or people that do trades. It's a sort of pushy rudeness when someone comes in here and screams "I WANT FREE STUFF, NOW GIVE IT TO ME!" --- not that's what you've done... but it's happened enough in the past that unfortunately your post raised it to the level of having words about the "Rules".

    So, don't take it personally, but .. understand where the mods stand... and where other uses may think this is just .... rude.
    Phillip J. Crane
    Austin, TX

  8. #8
    cool85k5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Georgia U.S.A.
    Posts
    1,530
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    To get down to the point,I think what Casper is saying(me included) its ok to ask for free plants/seed,but I dont think it's right if they pm/email you asking for plants.I get free stuff here alot,but if I have something to trade I will.Why cant we have a (Free plants for postage) section?But then it would full of people,right?People that send pms or emails demanding plants should be reported to a mod,but I still think they should be able to ask for free stuff if they post it.. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif[/img]

    Jerry

Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •