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The use of land like the Green Swamp for pulp paper tree farming is increasing and will increase exponentially. *There are some understandable reasons, and one of the biggest is the demand for toilet paper. *It's a commodity that most consumers don't want to do without, and I doubt that it's going to change. *Our feeble efforts will not stand in the face of the Demon Money. *Where there is demand, there will be supply.
Still, I am more than willing to open my mouth wide and bellow where bellowing is called for. *I don't have to like it, and I DON'T. *(Personally I would rather pay 1.00 for a roll of toilet paper). *I did some good bellowing regarding the cow depradation of the heterophyllous Darlingtonia population so well illustrated by Barry on his website, and I DO believe that had an impact. *In some cases we CAN make a difference with our collective complaints. *I hope the Green Swamp will prove to be one of these instances.
Swamplady, I doff my Stetson to you! *I nominate you for the CP-ulitzer Prize to be awarded at the First International PFT Barbeque and Plant Exchange Extravaganza......well, even if that never happens, I bless you for your efforts on behalf of us that are, and those that are yet to be!! *I know what inspires you, for it is in me as well.
It's an honor to have you as a member of the PFT Forums.
Do not let them "go gentle into that good night"! *Rage! *Rage against the dying....... *Don't let it be said by posterity that "no one cared".
In the LONG run, it will all work out. *In terms of geologic time, issues of mass extinction are not new scenarios. * No species thrives but at the expense of another established population. *It is survival of the fittest at work. *We continue to place stress on ecosystems incurred by our own species success, and the rubber band is stretching tight. *At some point, it will snap and these systems will again return to a balance evolved over millions of years. *I fear the repercussion will take its toll on our own populations, but the wonder of the Cosmic Design will bring up new forms out of Creation. *When I am bitter over the losses I am powerless to prevent, this is my comfort.
But for Now, there is work to be done! *Let's Rock!
It's nice to find a place where people as obsessive-compulsive about conservation as i am are able to commune. I wrote a letter to the park service over that D. californica scandal that Barry wrote up, too, Tamlin, and i was impressed how eager they seemed to do what was necessary to come out looking good. I have the petition from Ozzy, and was trying to get the local Greens chapter to sign it, but i guess they're all too busy graduating or something. I'll keep trying.
Is there a responsible party we can write to, like in the case of the Darlingtonia?
SirKristoff is a poopiehead
Tamlin I agree with what you said. We all need and use paper. But there should be a line in the middle, we need and have to have paper and we need clean drinking water, we need to keep at least part of the Green Swamp alive. The line in the middle was set by the NC lawmakers. Swamplady has shown me proof of time after time the paper company breaking law after law. And she has shown me pictures of aftermath of the broken laws. (I'll let her tell you the evidence, if she fits to.) And worst yet, I heard the results of the broken laws in the silence of the the Green Swamp. No animals anywhere.
|Is there a responsible party we can write to, like in the case of the Darlingtonia?[/QUOTE]|
Yes. That is one of the ideas for this forum, Somebody list any names that they have and we all respond. Swamplady is getting a list of the names and address and she'll post them here.
someone should put a pettion online and have everyone type there name on it. then send it somewhere it will be heard.
Things in the Green Swamp continue to be negative. FEMA floodplain maps show no floodplain in the area of the proposed landfill, though FEMA says their mapping is very general and not the type used for such specific purposes. Studies funded by Waste Management found 30% of the footprint in a flood zone. WM and its frontmen want the state to accept the FEMA maps. We all find it surprising that an area in the heart of a swamp known to be a floodplain suddenly isn't when the rest of the state is experiencing constant flooding.
Another major concern is the spraying of pesticides. NC is moving to legalize drift (6ppm) and the EPA is now considering changing the labels currently banning use over water or where water may be present to exempt tree farms. Tree farms in forested wetlands such as the Green Swamp have thousands of miles of draining canals, all carrying polluted water to the coastal estuaries where our oyster population dropped 90% last year and crab population dropped 95%.
Our website can be found at <www.swampwatch.org>. There's a new section on statistics that will show the plants and animals are not the only ones suffering.
I have two sheets of contacts but perhaps the best might be the governor and the Environmental Management Commission along with some local papers (letters to the editor). Politicians go with the flow. So far, big money is doing all the talking. They need to hear from the people and lots of them. We'd appreciate any message you can send -- let them know there's something here worth protecting and that environmental laws need to be enforced.
Governor Mike Easley, 116 West Jones Street, Raleigh, NC 27603 [Citizens hot line 1-800-662-7952]
Charles H. Peterson, Chair - EMC Water Quality Committee
232 Oakleaf Drive, Pine Knoll Shores, NC 28512
The Brunswick Beacon, P. O. Box 2558, Shallotte, NC 28459
Wilmington Star News, PO Box 840, Wilmington, NC 28402
News Reporter 127 W. Columbus St., Whiteville, NC 28472
SirKristoff is a poopiehead
I hate to read such bad news. How can they say it's not in a flood plain? Anybody who say's that sure wasn't there in '84 *when there was massive flooding, '96 when there was massive flooding, and defiantly not there in '99 when the 2nd most costly natural disaster in US history. Over a billion dollars of damage in the last storm alone. *I was there for all 3 event's. I didn't even mention all the yearly flooding that for some reason gets worse and worse. I think I know why it keeps getting worse. All the draining of the Green Swamp. The water use to absorb into the ground. Now it just floods all the new drainage ditches.
I'm going to cut this reply short for now. I'm getting to mad.
We all know what we need to do. We have the address now lets send petitions and letters. This is what this forum was created for. Let's make our voices heard. Don't stand by and let one of the greatest cp site die. *