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    SirKristoff is a poopiehead Ozzy's Avatar
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    I don't think we will ever go back.[/QUOTE]

    Bill, don't let the actions of a few ignorant and selfish people stop you from visiting a great place. I am from that area and I know most of the people from there are good people.

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    I sure hope they didn't list the locations on the DNR website! Did you block out the directions or did they?[/QUOTE]

    No I blacked the locations out. That's why I didn't give the website.

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    I think we should start a topic with peoples ideas on how to stop this kind of activity. I mean real ideas not hanging, beating, etc. like I've seen on this site in the past.
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    Good idea, but I think I like the beating and hanging idea. Or better yet North and South Carolina both have plenty of fire ants, maybe the penelty should be tie the poacher to a fireant infested stump [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] !!!!!!!
    Seriously it's a good idea, and since it's your idea you should start the topic. Let's hear your ideas first.

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    Education by CP clubs, reporting of questionable sources of plants for sale, things like that.[/QUOTE]

    You can educate all the people you can, and it'll stop most of the people who wants to poach one or two plants. Education will never stop the person(s) that poached the plants in this case. There was only one motive here, and it was greed. The plants that were stolen will be sold to the public. Hopefully the poachers will try to sell the plants to us cp'ers. So everybody please watch for mature vft's sold on ebay. And think back and remember if you have seen any vft's in the past week or so for sell. Don't just concertrate on sellers from the Carolina area, the area that these plants were stolen from, is a huge vacation spot for people all over the country. The road that they were stolen from is one of the main roads that tourist take in and out of the area. So the poachers could have spent a week in Myrtle Beach, scoped out the preserve, then stopped and stole them on the way out of town. Think of any greenhouses that sells cps in the southeastern NC or north eastern SC area. If you guys can think of anything and you don't want to be the one to turn them in send the info to me and I'll do. I've already contacted the detective and gave him some ideas to chechout. I'm very familiar with the people there and I had some suspicions. So if you find something and you don't want to get involved, I'll love to pass on the info.

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    Thank you very much (You know who you are). You should be thanked publicly but I don't know if you want to be. This is as close as I can get. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    I found another artical about this.
    Sun New

    Flytraps filched from preserve
    By Zane Wilson
    The Sun News


    The thief who dug up about 100 rare Venus' flytrap plants in Lewis Ocean Bay Heritage Preserve probably will have little to show for it but multiple insect bites, the scientist who studies the area's plants said.
    Jim Luken, a plant ecologist who heads the Coastal Carolina University biology department and has studied the carnivorous plants for several years, said Thursday that they aren't worth much on the market but that quite a bit of damage was done to their natural habitat.
    "This is not going to get you any money," Luken said. It's more likely that the perpetrator came home with scores of mosquito and tick bites than with something valuable, he said.
    Luken discovered the theft about three weeks ago. It was announced Thursday by the state Department of Natural Resources, the law enforcement officers of which are investigating.
    DNR Sgt. Stan Woodle said anyone convicted in the flytrap thefts could be fined up to $455 for each violation.
    "Lewis Ocean Bay preserve is home to the largest population of naturally occurring Venus' flytrap plants in the state or possibly within its natural range in the two Carolinas," said Jamie Dozier, a biologist with the DNR's Heritage Trust, which oversees Lewis Ocean Bay.
    "Large expanses of bay habitat on the preserve support at least 15 known populations," he said. "Venus' flytraps are increasingly rare and a plant species of special concern."
    Naturally occurring populations also are found at Cartwheel Bay Heritage Preserve in northwest Horry County.
    But plant collecting and habitat destruction pose a threat to the survival of the species, Dozier said. "The Venus' flytrap is of special concern to us in the two Carolinas," he said. "Worldwide, the Venus' flytrap is only native within a 100-mile radius of Wilmington, N.C."
    Luken said whoever took the plants probably thinks they still sell for a good price. Until about 15 years ago, that was the case, he said.
    Flytrap stealing was such a problem that the plants were almost wiped out in most of their natural habitat in North Carolina, Luken said.
    So horticulturists learned to cultivate them and began growing them commercially by the thousands.
    "It's just like making poinsettias," he said. The plants often sell in grocery and home-supply stores for a few dollars.
    But even so, taking a large clump like the one stolen from Lewis Ocean Bay upsets the balance of nature, Luken said.
    "This is the genetic basis for every Venus' flytrap on the planet," he said.
    Asked whether he was upset by the loss, he said, "You get an emotional attachment to your plants. ... Very few people ever get to see them in the wild."

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    My first thought for a way someone can unload illegally poached plants is on eBay. Its easy to sell there and most people won't question where the plant came from. Many eBay sellers post their locations on the listing page. So I wonder if there are any flytrap sellers with a S.C. location. Unfortunately, even if you question the seller, a poacher wouldn't reveal where they came from. But it wouldn't surprise me if they are being sold on eBay. I believe this has come up before regarding sarracenia.

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    Remember one thing about ebay. You can always put in a different location, or even make up a fake location. If I was selling poached vft's I wouldn't list my location .

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    Thats horrible! So if they catch the guy will they use the $45500 To by new vfts to replace them?
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    I still don't understand why people do that sort of stuff...The plants are not worth that much anyways so your better off buying them in bulk from a greenhouse and reselling them...
    I thought you people where \"Plant Geeks\", Look at me Now...

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    Just a quick question though...Why cant they collect the seeds of the wild venus flytrap and make tissue culture of them by the thousands and replant them in the wild?
    I know that the reason commercially bought vfts can't be planted is because they don't have the right genes and will mess up the wild population.
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