As some of you may know from the list serve, Jay Letchman, Jim Miller and myself went bogging this past weekend along the gulf coast. Jim is working on the second installment of his DVD series, CPs of the Gulf Coast. One of the stops was a well known site in Crestview at the base of a radio tower. Jim and Jay had both been to this site some years ago are were horrified to see what was happening. When we got to the site it was in the early stages of development (i.e. the site had been ditched to drain it.) Jim immediatly began to video tape the site as an 'after' documentation for the DVD. He has slides of 'before.' Our prescence and his taping drew the attention of an individual, the property owner, who was quite irrate about our tresspassing. I think he was more concerned with Jim's video taping. From the ensuing conversatation, it seems that there had been a good bit of local opposition to the site being developed and the owner feared we were more of the same trouble. When we assured him we meant him no trouble, he was more at ease and said that all the proper paper work, applications and approval had been sought and accepted and that indeed the site was to be developed and there was nothing anybody could do to stop it at this point. He said," Since you are interested in these plants and I see you have two cars there, you are welcome to fill 'em up and take all you can carry." Heck bring the local college back and dig 'em all up for all I care." This was dishearting to say the least but, we had at least gotten veral permission from the land owner. The site had been badly degraded due to neglect and the site was dry despite the enormous rain the area has recieved. Trust me we just about drowned last weekend! A beautiful site was disappearing under poor hydrology and over growth. The long and the short of it was we were able to rescue many rubra ssp. gulfensis. Now, I am giving these plants away to anyone who wants them for the price of shipping ($4 -$5, probably more like $3.75). These are not prime specimen plants I warn you but neglected orphans that need a good nuturing home. Each recipient will get 3 -4 plants so they can cross them to produce good seed from this location. Crestview, FL. Radio Tower Site. Here is a chance to start on the goals of the NASC. E-mail be direct at thombrogar@aol.com. Be patient I imagine there will be many requests and it will take me a while to get them all mailed out.