For those of you that are having problems getting plants, I do grow a few different kinds, had I have read this earlier, I would have given you guys first crack, all the mature plants I had for sale/trade are pretty much gone, but I still have a host of others, most are juvinials, e-mail me if your still stuck,
BTW on a side note for CChang, newsletter and software are at seedlings as well as the plants you ordered, yours too zongyi.