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    Received 2 young pairs of these guys from Doug Ebeling as part of a SMP project. I had a feeling I would like these alot(and I do) so felt since they have relatively simple requirements it would be a good practice to see how long I could keep them going. Unfortunately the female of the smaller pair jumped(thats my first jumper casualty...). Right now 2 males and one female. I'm hoping for warmer weather to come soon and hopefully they will begin spawning again.

    These photos were from several months ago...they have grown somewhat since then.

    A few days out of the box



    Female some time later.


    Male some time later


    The blue and red/yellow on these guys is pretty remarkable! According to Doug the blue lessens in deepness as the fish mature and the red/yellow grows more prominent
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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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    Hi N,


    Wow, nice fish. I may get some when I restart. Good luck with those. Doug is getting my tanks so his fishroom will be expanding! You know fry do grow better in green water for some reason. No one really knows. You know what makes great green water -- a bunch of feeder goldfish in a tank with little water movement, 24/7 bright light and food. In days it is pea soup. A tank of unaerated water with a little sweet potato baby food mixed in and room light will make for a nice paramecium culture usually. Have you tried the Nothos again?

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    Hi Bobby,

    I bet you would like these. They are bold and the males are nice to the females. The pair is currently in a critterkeeper together and though the male often looks to the female to spawn he never does any damage *knock on wood*. Though they are eating well no eggs now...probably too cold.

    Glad Doug is getting your tanks. He breeds alot of cool killies and based on these fish does an excellent job.

    I may try the goldfish idea, plenty of those around here! I think Wright Huntley also mentioned using Aust. nigripinnis/bellottii and Simp. whitei as "guardians" in his greenwater tubs to keep them daphnia free(don't think they really put out much nutrients). I suppose rosy red minnows or even Gambusia would work as well but growing killies seems like a better use.

    I found that 5 gallon buckets do work for greenwater...as one of them turned green. Funny as this one that I simply added a old microworm culture to. The 1st 5 gallon bucket I probably added in a little too many nutrients... [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_t_32.gif[/img] as the water is more cloudy than green. I am going to let it sit and simply add in new water and add the "bacteria" water to the currently green bucket(I heard paramecium eat bacteria too).

    I obtained some Moina courtesy of Markus Brown. Currently got them so good greenwater and hoping they will take off.

    Haven't tried the kafuensis again. It is about rewet time though correct? Wonder if I could try raising them on Moina for the first several days.

    ~Joseph
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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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    Hi N,

    I'd have the green water and bbs ready for the kafuensis but try baby moina within a few days of hatching. People say it works. I'm going to be in Brian Watters hometown at the end of the month but he is going to be in Africa. I can't believe my bad luck. I wanted to see the new Notho from Chad. The photos look incredible. Doug is getting my fishroom as he is setting up a big operation. Bill Gallagher from the AKA and the guy who helped to save the calabarica is in town so we are going to meet and talk killies this week. The move should happen in mid-March. Everything is finally ontrack but keep your fingers crossed. You won't see me on AHHS anymore as I do not stay somewhere when I am attacked for going out of my way to freely help people. I saw the photo of the nigripinnis on Killies.com. She looks great. I still have reservations about that population so if it doesn't work don't give up on nigripinnis. I think that is just a small and rather weak population.

    Bobby

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    Hello Bobby,

    If everything goes as planned(these Moina seem to breed fast and at least the nigripinnis love them). I'll give the kafuensis a shot.

    I've also tried setting up a larger culture container for BS(5 gallon bucket). It produces but hardly anything compared to daphnia. Since it uses little more than old brinewater and a little bit of flour or what not every now and then I'll keep it around to treat the fish. It would be awesome if one could culture BS and get good yields the way one does with daphnia

    Good luck with your move, hope everything goes smoothly(as possible).

    Have you kept any of the locations of nigripinnis introduced recently? 'Carmelo' and 'Villa Soriano' seem the most common. Also some AS nigripinnis floating around too...chances are those are robust fish to have made it this far. Seems right now all sorts of new Austrolebias are being discovered too. What other cold tolerant SAA/killies are out there? One I've found so far would be Megalebias. Apparently live in same habitats as some of our smaller SAA's and prey on them. Except for maybe wolterstorffi most do not look attractive but sure sound interesting.

    Speaking of which I found my way over to the SAA discussion group on Yahoo through their website and managed to get in. Will be browsing archives sometime.

    ~Joseph
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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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    Hello Bobby,

    Found someone across the pond who says they've got ocellatus. Don't know if they are breeding them or anything but thought it might interest you.
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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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    Hi Joseph,

    I posted a note to martin on Goodeids.com -- nice site. I haven't kept nigripinnis since the 70's but the Maneschawtz or something like that location always looked good. I'd try belottii or viarus. Wolterstorffi is fascinating looking and needs live food to do well but very interesting to observe. Bob Morenski has alot of the cool water Austrolebias, so I'd write to him. Maybe he has some kaufensis tips. Raising BS will work in big outdoor tubs this summer. Let them go green if you can -- maybe buy marine algae. In those conditions you can raise a crop of adults. Marc Weiss sent me his new gut loading product for blackworms. I will send you a package to try. He wants feedback.

    Bobby

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    Hi Bobby,

    Got back to you in the email but...

    Have you any personal experience with Megalebias? Are their any other cool water genuses I am missing?(I'm assuming Simpsonichthys , etc. etc. are mostly warm water). I read somewhere Pterolebias longipinnis prefers temps from 17-22 celcius but it would seem this is also a warmwater killie.

    I hope to try an outdoor culture of BS in the summer. I had them on a smaller scale last year and they did well(but indoors in a 5 gallon bucket is not working).

    Interesting product that is...I'd love to try it out. I'm guessing it is mean't to give the blackworms an extra boost of nutrition before being offered to the fish?

    Kafuensis eggs in the water now. Lets hope that their are more fry. Currently 1 fry survived from the last batch and is all alone in the ten gallon tank where its parents were raised last year. I suppose he/she likes it. How much of a size difference can their be before kafuensis fry cannibalize or cause problems? This one is not very big(afterall it was missed for a while) but I wonder if it would pick on its siblings. Maybe keep it seperately...

    Best Wishes
    ~Joseph
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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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