I seperated out 2 males to be fed extra and now they are coloring up. I've also got 2 females that I have been pampering. I agree with Bobby they do not seem very large but it could also be due to my relative inexperience in raising them and that I had some trouble getting them fed in that stage when BBS were not filling them up. Bad photos here. As you likely know they should be a purplish black base color.