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    How to control algae?

    Last Friday I added some plants to my 10 gallon tank. I have now 30 watts with CO2 and a bunch of plants. Well today I noticed some algae starting to grow on the front glass. I added no fertilizers yet. I have the following plants:

    2 Anubias Nana (growing new leaves already)
    7 Rotala Magenta (looks like it's dying already)
    Java Fern (on a big piece of driftwood)
    3 Pigmy Chain Sword
    15 Corkscrew Val (starting to send runners already)

    Since I figured I didn't have enough plants I went out and bought some more jungle vals and some other kind of bunched plant. I'm using flourite for the substrate and the lights are on for about 12 hours a day. I plan on getting some oto cats, cherry shrimp, and malaysian trumpt snails soon but I thought having all these plants would prevent the algae. I'm also running out of room to plant the plants so any advice would be good for both the algae and the rotala. I have not done any water changes yet since I started the tank on the 22nd of January. I also added some blackwater extract if that has any usfulness since I am putting the neons in. Thanks for anything you can give.

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    Get some Otocyclus Cats and/or Plecostomus, Mollies... They love algae.

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    Why aren't you fertilizing? Why don't you have a filter? What are your co2 levels?

    R. magenta is a very demanding plant.

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    I do have a filter going I'm not sure why you would think that I don't. For co2 I've been using that hagen system that you have. I have not used any fertilizer yet because I've been trying this cycle system out I found.

    http://www.aquahobby.com/articles/e_silent_cycling.php

    I also have to order the other fertilizers too. Right now I have Seachem Flourish and Flourish Potassium. I'm also trying to find a fertilizer schedule.

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    Because I remember you saying you didn't have one

    I switched from hagen to pressuirzed. Hagen wasn't good enough once I started upgrading and i'm too lazy to keep changing the yeast mixture

    Here is the schedule I used. Just don't dose phosphate and iron/traces on the same day.

    For Hightlight, 3wpg or more, C02 enriched tank's that are moderatly to heavy planted.

    If you need to, suppliment with Flourish Excel, increase C02-Let it run 24/7 for a few days, give the tank good aeration after light's out, to much C02 is okay, it's the lack of 02 that is deadly, that happens when to much C02 is being pumped into the tank after lights off and it removes 02, so a simple lift of the spray bar or lily pipe to break the surface will remedy that.
    Personally, I have found that using a glass diffusor is much more efficient than reactor's, therefore eliminating the need for excel.

    Dosing Dry, Use measuring spoon's found at most department store's in the utensile section, scoop appropriate amount and toss in the tank, simple as that!
    I use to keep an old travel mug under the tank, and keep fert's in large spice bottles, scoop appropriate amount into cup, dip in tank, stir and serve.
    Tsp=Teaspoon

    Tank's (1)
    20~40gal
    50%H20 change-weekly
    +/-1/4Tsp-KN03 3x a week
    +/-1/16+Tsp-KH2P04 3x aweek
    +/-1/16+Tsp K2S04 3x a week
    +/-5ml Trace 3x a week
    +/-1-2ml Fe/Iron 3x a week

    "If dosing a 10gal highlight C02 enriched tank, divide above regime x2"

    Tank's (2)
    40~60gal
    50%H20 change-weekly
    +/-1/2Tsp KN03 3x a week
    +/-1/8Tsp KH2P04 3x a week
    +/-1/8Tsp K2S04 3x a week
    +/-10ml Trace 3x a week
    +/-2-4ml Fe/Iron 3x a week


    Tank's (3)
    For a 60~80gal
    50%H20 change-weekly
    +/-3/4Tsp KN03 3x a week
    +/-3/16Tsp KH2P04 3x a week
    +/-1/4Tsp K2S04 3x a week
    +/-15ml Trace 3x a week
    +/-4-8ml Fe/Iron 3x a week
    Etcetera.

    Do the math for other tank sizes, Ex: if you have a 125gal use Tank's (3) x2 +/-

    Note: Iron/Fe is a luxury, not a necessity, you will have enough Iron/Fe in your trace mix to satisfy the need's required, if the tank in question is new, immature, don't dose extra Iron/Fe, wait until the tank is balanced and mature, Then dose Fe as above

    Algae Issue's?
    Increase C02, even if you have to use Flourish Excel, and decrease the light a bit, raise it up off the tank, burn it less hour's etc.
    Pick, clean, prune, preen, all plant's, manually remove as much algae as you can, good condition's will slow it's growth, at most, stop the growth.
    you will need to remove the remaining algae by hand...Manually!!..Vacuum, PaperTowels for inside glass when water is drained.

    Make sure you're C02 is at optimal condition's.

    Fish gasping? 02 Issue's?
    Increase surface movement for night time/lights out, decrease for opposite, if having 02 issue's a little surface movement is good.

    Trace Element and Iron, either Retail Premixed, such as Flourish, TMG, etc or Plantex CSM,CSM+B,CSM+B w/Extra Iron & Fe/Iron Chelate 10%- mix 1Tbsp per 250ml/ one capful=5ml
    Aquarium Plants, Aquatic Plants, Planted Aquariums, and Aquarium Plant Fertilizer has all of these...Usually!

    If you choose to dose Plantex dry here is a formula.. Thanks jgc
    Originally Posted by jgc
    Another conversion. In a 1 tablespoon to 250ml, 20 ml = 1/4 teaspoon of fert. (there are 12 - 1/4 teaspoons disolved. 250ml/12=20.83ml


    Credits go to WfxXx for this fantastic regime.
    Here's the link. http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/wa...-regimes_.html

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    I have Flourish and Flourish Potassium. I'm getting Flourish Excel, Trace, Nitrogen, and Iron. Is there any I shouldn't get or something I'm missing? They all say they have no phosphate so I dunno. That info you put up there is like reading another language to me. What would your schedule be using the Flourish brands?

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    I found this at Dr. Foster and Smiths website. I'm guessing you have more experience then me on this so what do you think?

    Day 1

    Flourish
    Flourish Excel
    Flourish Iron
    Flourish Phosphorous
    Flourish Nitrogen

    Day 2

    Flourish Trace
    Flourish Excel
    Flourish Iron

    Day 3

    Flourish Potassium
    Flourish Excel
    Flourish Iron

    Day 4

    Flourish Trace
    Flourish Excel
    Flourish Iron
    Flourish Phosphorous
    Flourish Nitrogen

    Day 5

    Flourish Potassium
    Flourish Excel
    Flourish Iron

    Day 6

    Flourish
    Flourish Excel
    Flourish Iron

    Day 7

    (5% Water Change)
    Prime
    Alkaline Buffer
    Acid Buffer
    Equilibrium

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    50%, not 5%.

    Equilibrium is just for reconstituting RO water. You don't need the buffers unless something is wrong with your water. Acid buffer is phosphate-based and will screw with your co2 readings unless you use a drop checker. It can also make phosphate-induces algae growth worse in some scenarios. Alkaline buffer is just baking soda. The equilibrium is just calcium and magensium.

    That chart looks fine but if you absolutely must add phosphate and iron on the same day, do one in the morning and one in the evening.

    A lot of people use stump remover for nitrate, epsoms salt and ice melter for GH, fleet enema for phosphate, etc.

    To be honest you probably do NOT need to buffer you're water at all, just add a little prime if it's got chlorine in it. You really need to test your water (let it sit for 24 hours first) before you start screwing with it.

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