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    I agree, I had a 5 gallong aquarium I was going to use, but I never did, because I saw that it would be cruel. What really brakes my heart are the betta fish kept in those plastic cups with a lid...
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    I do agree that small tanks are cruel, no lie there. But at a small size, its fine...but they only stay small for so long.
    Id upgrade to atleast a 30gal....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirKristoff View Post
    Gold fish in general arent too picky about their living conditions, for christ sake they have the highest range of tolerance to temperatures of any fish (Goldfish and other Carp) up to 108F before dieoff really begins to occur, not to mention are able to tolerate highly polluted water...
    just because an animal can *tolerate* something doesnt mean its o.k. to force them to live in those conditions..
    so because a goldfish can "tolerate" dirty water, its ok to keep them in dirty water?
    or course not..if goldfish can "tolerate" 100 degree water, should we keep them in 100 degree water? they will "tolerate" it for a few days tops..before it kills them..

    not saying its right to keep them in a small tank, but at a small size, its not too big of a problem. i do think he needs a bigger tank, but you dont need to call him an irresponsible pet owner,
    yes it is a problem..because a too-small tank with too many fish cant be kept clean enough..
    the fish are stressed, and die young..

    as far as im concerned nearly all your posts are in some way, an attack on someone. Chill out.
    wow..now THAT is an exaggeration!
    lets see..out of nearly 2,000 posts in 8 years, I bet you can find 10 that are "attacks"..and most of them were years past in political threads..the vast majority of my posts are polite and helpful and about growing carnivorous plants properly. thats very far from "all your posts are attacks"..
    Chill out...dont make such ridiculous blanket statements..

    Our marine bio class has goldfish everywhere (they breed like mad for us) and some are kept in troughs, others in tanks, we have some some goldfish our teacher bought 4 years ago as feederfish, that are now at around the 12" mark
    No black moores or any of the other double tailed "Deformed" goldfish.........though ive personally owned many, and had about 10 in a 20 gallon tank. Personally id upgrade a bit, but if they are taken care of properly, the small tank only prevents them from growing any larger. The fish are too slow to remember how the stuff anyway, with a 5-8 second memory span, i dont think they really care so long as they have clean water and food.
    the crux of that argument is "clean water"..
    very few 14 year olds with 5 goldfish in a 10 gallon tank keep "clean water" in that tank..
    it just doesnt happen..

    the small tank only prevents them from growing any larger.
    that is very seldom true..95% of the time the too-small tank kills the fish in 2 years or less, due to overcrowding, stress, and bad water..when they could live to be 20 years old if properly cared for.."prevents them from growing any larger" is the least of the problems with a too-small tank..the fish dont live long enough to "not grow larger" anyway..

    Scot

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    Im not going to fight with you about it, if you read above, i am fully aware that its probably too small for those fish. we dont even know the size of the tank.
    And dying young because they are kept in a tank too small?
    i kept 5 moores and a placo in a 20 gallon tank, they lived for a good 6 years each. i had them from age 8-to just after my 14th bday.
    cleaned the tank out once every month.
    im not saying just because they can tolerate it, put them through it. i said they CAN tolerate it, so i doubt a smaller tank for a short amount of time (hoping he upgrades) is going to be an issue, long term, of course it is.
    Gold fish to grow to their environment, proven it many times in marine bio class.
    im planning on a major in marine biology in college, its what i want to do. so, goldfish in a smaller tank. If he upgrades, its not a big issue, he really probably shouldnt have bought the fish without the means to properly take care of them, true.
    But it does not warrant an attack on him.
    Today is a day i wont let attacks at me bother me, im leaving for florida for vacation, i thought i would see what was going on, and put in my opinion, and thats what im doing. Personally, im sure he will upgrade his tank when he realizes its too small.
    its 50$ for a basic 30 gallon tank(atleast thats how much mine cost me at petco), buy one and upgrade it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CN View Post
    Sorry but this is gonna stir the pot but well who cares.
    Kris you tend to jump on people as well with attitude hell i do too. you take this forum as if it were your's an you seem to think everyone is being rude or disrespectful . Scot was giving simple advice if any one is being at all rude HMMM .... maybe you with your seemingly know it all attitude . granted you are very knowlageable in many things an yes some times have good pionts , but gez come on stop jumping on the backs of people trying to help each other .
    i am sure that you think i a being rude, well maybe just a little bit .an i am sure this will not be the end
    so good luck ken with your Gold fish

    Daren

    Daren, again, im not here to fight with anyone.
    Personally, i know this isnt my forum, hell i dont want it to be.
    When it comes to fish care, especially something as basic as goldfish, i feel i have every right to have a "know-it-all" attitude considering this is what we started out with in our studies in Marine Biology.
    Carp are the hardiest fish in the animal kingdom, if you read my above post youll see that i said i think its wrong to keep them cramped.
    I do not believe Scotty was right when he called him what he did, but im not going to fight about it.
    If you really think im so much of an issue on the forum, do not reply to my threads if you expect me to flame about it, its simple.
    I was adding advice.
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    i can see this is all going to get flared up and heated.
    Im out, last post now before florida.
    Not going to have my day ruined because of people on the internet, its just the internet.
    Kent, if you need help on something, feel free to ask, ill help you as much as i can. with my "know it all" attitude
    Have a good day

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