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    More about very tiny fish tanks/containers.

    I have often said on this forum that "If I were king of the world, 10 gallon aquariums and goldfish bowls would be illegal"

    Things like small goldfish bowls, tiny betta containers, the hideous "betta vases" and the like, are basically animal cruelty and should be illegal..
    the only reason they arent illegal is that US animal cruelty laws simply donty apply to fish..so people are free to sell ANYTHING for fish..and as long as there is money to be made, they will keep being sold, and ignorant people will keep buying them..well check this out!

    "Harro Hieronimus, chair of the German Livebearer Society and the International Rainbowfish Association, was asked to create for the German Ministry of Agriculture a set of minimum requirements for the humane care of fish. His expert opinion has been translated into law in Germany. He maintains that fish must have a minimum volume of 13 gallons of water in an aquarium approximately 24 inches by 12 inches by 12 inches in size. Hieronimus states, "Keeping fish permanently in smaller tanks is cruelty against animals and [in Germany] may be prosecuted by law." "
    anything under 13 gallons is now ILLEGAL in Germany! sweet!

    that prevents betta vases, goldfish bowls, and all the micro-tanks from being sold..excellent!
    now we just have to get such a law passed here..

    Im normally not a big fan of PETA..I think they are run by nut-jobs..
    but I do agree with them on this particular issue:

    http://www.peta.org/feat/aquab/


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    Quote Originally Posted by scottychaos View Post
    anything under 13 gallons is now ILLEGAL in Germany! sweet!

    that prevents betta vases, goldfish bowls, and all the micro-tanks from being sold..excellent!
    now we just have to get such a law passed here..
    That's awesome. Now they just need to pass a law that says that any yard under 1,000 square feet is illegal also.

    J.C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xvart View Post
    That's awesome. Now they just need to pass a law that says that any yard under 1,000 square feet is illegal also.

    J.C.
    huh?
    I think that was supposed to be some kind of sarcasm..but I dont get it..

    Scot

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    Now, I understand this with most fish, but what are people with male bettas to do in germany? They can't just keep all the males in the same tank, preform proper water changes, and its hard to filter a betta's tank because their fins catch current like a sail making them tired. I keep my betta in large kritter keeper that is bigger then a 2.5 gallon, (3-4 gallons I believe) and its prefect size for him. its not like a vase that has height and not width, so more oxygen in the water and more room to swim. So is there any thing in the law that says a lone male betta may be kept in a tank smaller then that with specific heights and widths?

    Other then that I approve of the law. Germany has a lot of interesting a good laws. Did you know its illegal to kill the European hornet in Germany because they are a protected species with a fine up to 50,000 euros? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespa_crabro Interestingly enough, even thought the subspecies in Germany is in risk of becoming extinct, it is the same subspecies that is now invasive to the east coast of the u.s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    Now, I understand this with most fish, but what are people with male bettas to do in germany? They can't just keep all the males in the same tank, preform proper water changes, and its hard to filter a betta's tank because their fins catch current like a sail making them tired.
    Tank dividers..
    and its easy to make gentle filtration..doesnt have to be fast moving water.
    sponge filters are ideal in a case like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottychaos View Post
    Im normally not a big fan of PETA..I think they are run by nut-jobs..
    but I do agree with them on this particular issue:

    http://www.peta.org/feat/aquab/
    Fish?

    I thought we were calling them sea kittens now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ant View Post
    Now, I understand this with most fish, but what are people with male bettas to do in germany?.
    quit selling/breeding bettas.

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    That's a little bit ridiculous...

    All your thinking about is bettas and goldfish (which I definitely agree on), but what about the saltwater world and some of the very tiny freshwater fish?
    I just set up a 3 gallon reef tank, something many people have successfully kept for years. (Yes, with a fish)

    I think they should revise that law and allow exceptions for certain fish.
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    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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