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    Quote (wickedthistle @ Oct. 06 2003,07:29)
    I really appreciate everyone's advice. I'm having loads of fun and it's already a family activity to try and find all 13 shrimp.

    I'm using a GE 15w, F1578-AR-FS Aqua Ray tube that's for freshwater and saltwater aquariums plus aquarium plants and corals. The plants are Glossostigma, Lilacina (Alternanthera reineckii var. lilacina), and Cryptocoryne wendtii "green". All of the plants have good roots on all of the stems and if they continue to do well, should be enough to multiply and cover the tank. Remember this is "econo tank" - plants are expensive so I will see if I can propagate more before purchasing.

    My filter is an Aqua Clear Mini Aquarium Power Filter, 100gph for a 20gal tank (mine's a 10). Has adjustable speed. I keep it on full and plenty of bubbles seem to get mixed in. I do have small gravel in there but I guess it's not enough. I'll add a 5lb bag of it when I can get to the store. Luckily, I don't have anything in there but hungry shrimp, so there is no food buildup yet. Sanddollar will be taken out...and toys added in [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]

    The glassfish I was talking about is the Chanda sp. I made sure to notice that the ones in the store were unpainted. However, a few did have the fungus so I will steer clear of them until I have a more established tank and/or more experience.

    Over the next month I'll be slowly adding a few dwarf algae sucker of some sort -thinking o.vittatus, c.pigmaeus - depends on what the store has. A few glass catfish, and later some of the really small tetras, probably neon or such. Not too worried about algae, we'll see how all the critters do. Of course I say that because it hasn't gotten gross yet. But I can always clean the tank! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img][/QUOTE]
    I have some extra water lilies,green myrio,and hornwort I could send you for saspe (self adressed tamped padded envelope) Pm. me if interested.
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    Your setup looks great! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/alien.gif[/img] I would get 3 or 4 more plants, and bunch all of the plants in a corner. When you get other fish the shrimp will sometimes hide in the plant bunch for protection, fish will also swim in-between the plants [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] what are the dimensions of your tank? Looks like a 20 gallon instead of a ten... [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img]

    Anyways, here is a setup I had when i started out with fish that worked out suprisingly well, no fish died for over a year:

    Tank size: Ten (10) gallons.
    Gravel: Natural color, small size (3mm), epoxy coated I think.
    Plants: Live, five (5) plants, one plant for every two (2) gallons of water.
    Light: Some natural, and two (2) florecent bulbs (one full spectrum and a cool white I think)
    Filtration: one (1) crummy, used old bio-wheel filter , the wheel barely ran, the sponge was fine, but the thing was dripping it filtered so little water. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif[/img]
    Decor: some large rocks for the bottom-dwelling fish to burrow under, a wrecked ship with attached air hose, a hollow treasure chest for shy fish to hide in, some medium rocks, a small shell and one (1) medium shell (the coolie loaches loved them, at the time I didn;t know that they would degrade and pour calcium and otehr nutrients into the water, but the fish did fine with it&#33[img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]
    Now the fun part [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] :
    Fish: Six (6) neon tetras, 3 mollies, 2 hatchet fish, a chinese sucker fish (that sucker was a sucker! mean guy&#33[img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img], 3 very small bala sharks (literally hatchlings, they were no mroe than an inch long when i got them&#33[img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img], 2 fancy guppies, male and female (they had alot of babies, luckily they were all eaten&#33[img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img], Maybe a few others. I know, very over-populated, but they did great for 2 years untill i moved them to a 30 gallon! I even think the neons bred, because i saw little yellow dots that looked like eggs! The **** sucker ate them though...
    just my 8 1/4 pennies [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/alien.gif[/img]

    EDIT: Oh yeah, and 3 ghost shrimp [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]
    2nd EDIT: DOH! forgot my glass tetra too! it never had any diseases either [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] Also, he lived for 3 years, and that darn chinese sucker lived for nearly 4!!




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    Well, my tank measurements are 24x12x12" so actually I have a 15 gallon! Didn't even know they made that size.

    Well anyway, I've cleaned out the tank since to get all the food that floated under the big rocks -10% water change- and added 5lb of the smaller gravel. One shrimp who refused to eat kicked the bucket so I'm down to 12. I added a super cute cory trilineatus who currently either doesn't eat or doesn't eat in my presence. I've tried flake food, algae wafers, and frozen chopped squid pieces. Food is gone in the morning, but it might be the shrimp eating it. Still, the cory is very active swimming up and down (trying to mate with its reflection?) and I'll be getting it a pal or two this weekend.

    The Glossostigma is beginning to rot (shrimp mess with it) and the Lilacina (Alternanthera reineckii var. lilacina), rotted and dissolved within 4 days. The Cryptocoryne wendtii "green" is in perfect condition. I'm not too upset though, 'cause I was using the plants to help cycle the tank and pondboy is nice enough to offer me some extra plants. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img]

    Right now I'm not sticking strictly to my theme, but more towards what looks healthy at the shops and what will work best in the tank while maintaining a ghostly theme [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

    I think the neon tetras will be next, or something else that will swim around mid level. Whee!
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    Hey all,

    I want to thank everyone for their help. I got a little Otocinclus (probably affinis) and 4 neon tetras this weekend.
    The cory and the oto seem to enjoy hanging out, but if that ends than I'll have to get each one a friend or two. Might get one or two more tetras if the current ones do well. Pondboy's generously sending me some plants, so I think I'm all done with the tank!
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    Any updates on how they are doing? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/blues.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif[/img] darn fish, eating the plants! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/img] oyu should try an amazon sword plant

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    Hey!
    That setup looks really cool!
    I must warn you about certian fishes tendancies to eat the shrimp. I had a couple in one of my ten gallons, and I acidentialy skipped a feeding, and the shrimp were gone... Also I agree w/Spectabilis73 about the sword plant. Not only do they look good (I think) but I have had a sword plant For nearly 2 yrs... Since I started in the hobby.
    Best of luck
    Aaron
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    Oh, y'all want an update? Some of the shrimp have died, though I'm pretty sure it's not the fish since the shrimp are actually larger than them! They're fed a small amount twice a day, and except for the shrimp, it's easy to observe them showing evidence of eating properly [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] Flakes in morning and night, and one algae tab at night.

    Pondboy was nice enough to send me some plants. I was down to just the Cryptocoryne. The shrimp were chomping on everything else. Hopefully they'll do okay, I don't seem to have the magic touch for aquatic plants yet. I will buy the amazon sword if I need another plant, it looks great! I just want to be really careful as I have been, no point in adding too much until I get the hang of it. Also, for some reason, aquatics are really expensive in my area!

    Pondboy actually sent me much more, but the stupid Post Office really, really damaged the package. And I mean large holes, leaking, etc. It came in a plastic PO bag with their disclaimer about mangling my package. Arggg!

    Swimmin' things
    4 neon tetras
    1 leopard corydoras
    1 Otocinclus affinis
    9? ghost shrimp

    Plants
    1 Cryptocoryne wendtii
    3 darned cool purple water lilies
    2 nymphoides
    2 sprigs hornwort
    1 giant val
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    sounds good. do you notice any round balls inside of any of the shrimp? if ya do, those are eggs! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

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