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    80% twice weekly sounds like almost like an overkill...I've never heard of anyone changing that much besides, perhaps, discus fananatics changing over 100% every day. I'm a low tech kid...no python...just yogurt tub and good ol bucket. Dependign on how much time I have...I usually change one or two bucketfulls(thats 3-6 gallons) every day or every other day on this tank. The het tank gets about once a week a bucket.

    It is an excuse to do curlups using the water though! LOl



    Have you seen Marlins own Liberty molly auctions? The little male in his pic is pretty attractive. He's also offering the offspring of an ALA convention Best of the Show monty.


    BTw, I've emailed(or tried, at least) to email him regarding location info of the ivorys(which he states were collected under some waterfall). He, if anyone, would know the name of this waterfall.
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    Hi,

    Oh, I'm low tech too. I drain 25 tanks with a hose out the back door and refill with ce-chlored tap or rainwater. IT'S RAINING ALL WEEK HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Most tanks get once a week but mollies need more. How they survive in the wild is beyond me as they often live in filth but in tanks they need clean and food -- pigs!

    I missed the Liberty Molly auction. Liberties are mean, mean, mean and fast, fast, fast. Poecilia orri is a nice one though. BIG.

    The fallax fry are getting big fast. Some are nearing 2 inches at a month of age and starting to spar. They all look like strong fish. There is a great pic of the orange fallax on aquabid right now from a friend. I believe it is CI98 population. Mine are Fifinda 2003 but its the same fish.

    The new guppy pellets from HBH foods came and they are a hit! The veggies flakes look great -- light green color and made from veggies not just algae. The earthworm flakes look good too. I got a sample of soft krill pellets too. This is from Kensfish or kensfood on line. Very good service and rep.

    My worm bedding came but they forgot to sedn the worm food. I have to get the red wigglers started -- cheap and highly nutritious. Good breeding conditioning food when frozen and chopped fine.

    Bobby

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    Fifinda 2003....does that mean they were collected oone year ago?

    Here in Fresno...I'd love to have lots of rain to collect rainwater. Of course, that never happens, and the water would probably be polluted...though.



    Are red wigglers the small reddish, purplish, yellowish worms with black rings that fishermen use?


    As for the killies, you must be feeding them something really good. How long do these guys live in the wild anyway? Only one month and already almost half the potential size.

    Shouldn't they start sexing out soon, esp with all the sparring going on? I've noticed with A. lineatus that the young males can be quickly picked out at about 3/4-1 inch in that they begin to spar with each other(not to mention the orange bar across the bottom of the anal fin).

    Aquariaman's pic and most of the other's of F. fallax look awesome! Orange or yellow, with blue flecks and dark blue bordered fins is life colors, right?


    BTw, I think the monties are starting to sex out. There is no escaping now that the point on the bottom of the fin is a mini sword. The pigment hasn't come in yet, though. The anal fins are forming into gonopodiums too. It looks as if I have at most 4 females...assuming the other two small ones turn into females.

    Also, I think the female you sent gave birth without my notice. She probably got rid of a few babies due to stress perhaps. I think there are at least three little gray colored fry swimming around. I offered the adults San Franscisco Bay Brand baby brine shrimp...they loved it. Not to mention the lil ones got to pick at the leftovers. They look so cute with those little plump bellies.

    Also, have you tried hard boiled egg yolk? With normal swordtail juvies...this was an instant hit. They'd follow it around biting it as if it were a wriggling worm or something. The monties arent as enthusiastic, but it did stir up a bit of action. The babies hung on the outskirts and grab the particles that came to them.


    As far as the adults go...things will be pretty rowdy with the guys outnumbering the girls!
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Nflytrap @ May 14 2004,9:55)]Hi Nflytrap,

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
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    Fifinda 2003....does that mean they were collected oone year ago?
    Yes, they were collected last August. They are beginning to sex out and it looks pretty good, maybe a bit male heavy. It looks like most will be yellows as the yellow male was the dominant breeder. I like the orange color but the yellows have the biggest fins and body size for some reason. Cannot wait to see what the 15 or so younger ones that just hatched in the parents' tank turn out to be. Since some fry are water incubating on their own instead of peat storage I am just letting that happen. You get more with peat though. I need to wet some more fallax peat btw.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    Here in Fresno...I'd love to have lots of rain to collect rainwater. Of course, that never happens, and the water would probably be polluted...though.
    Let it rain for 15-30 minutes and then collect. I have an old roof -- 30 years -- so it runs off crystal clear. Hope it rains!


    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    Are red wigglers the small reddish, purplish, yellowish worms with black rings that fishermen use?
    Yes, only get like 2-3 inches. They are a great fish food, chooped live or frozen and chopped. Earthworms are considered the best all around food once you train fish to eat them. They really make for growth and good breeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    As for the killies, you must be feeding them something really good. How long do these guys live in the wild anyway? Only one month and already almost half the potential size.
    Oh, fallax if you don't overfeed and push to really breed alot and keep around 72-75F would live 2-3 years. They are semi annual which is why their eggs incubate in damp peat or water just fine. Not all their water holes dry up each year. There are many locations of fallax all over the Cameroons

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
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    Shouldn't they start sexing out soon, esp with all the sparring going on? I've noticed with A. lineatus that the young males can be quickly picked out at about 3/4-1 inch in that they begin to spar with each other(not to mention the orange bar across the bottom of the anal fin).
    Yes, sexing out. Should be good to go in a month, maybe 3 weeks. They are barely a month old.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    Aquariaman's pic and most of the other's of F. fallax look awesome! Orange or yellow, with blue flecks and dark blue bordered fins is life colors, right?
    Yes, those pictures are very true. The pectoral fins on the male have black borders which are impressive. The females are handsome but plain brownish tan. The spotting on the body is very cool as they are so big.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    BTw, I think the monties are starting to sex out. There is no escaping now that the point on the bottom of the fin is a mini sword. The pigment hasn't come in yet, though. The anal fins are forming into gonopodiums too. It looks as if I have at most 4 females...assuming the other two small ones turn into females.
    4 females would be great. Keep me posted as I want you to have enough girls as these throw more boys. The black will fill as they age. It keeps increasing as does the sword and dorsal size and pattern. Look for the late developing largest males with long straight swords and big round dorsals.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    Also, I think the female you sent gave birth without my notice. She probably got rid of a few babies due to stress perhaps. I think there are at least three little gray colored fry swimming around. I offered the adults San Franscisco Bay Brand baby brine shrimp...they loved it. Not to mention the lil ones got to pick at the leftovers. They look so cute with those little plump bellies.
    You should see how they eat the live baby brine! The small fry need it for best development. Next batch she should give you 30 or so fry. Then you'll be on your way. The fry will eat many foods but baby brine makes them grow the fastest, largest and with best color. I got to get you those microworms. I will shoot for this Sat. to mail with grindals. I've just been busy.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    Also, have you tried hard boiled egg yolk? With normal swordtail juvies...this was an instant hit. They'd follow it around biting it as if it were a wriggling worm or something. The monties arent as enthusiastic, but it did stir up a bit of action. The babies hung on the outskirts and grab the particles that came to them.
    Oh, yes, egg yoke is an old food for fry just not too much as it causes an infusoria bloom. If yo can collect mosquito egg rafts and put those in the tank the fry love the tiny newly hatched mossie larvae. Sifted dapnia are great too. Babies are so cute when they get fat. Killie babies are fun as they are little reptors in attacking live food.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    As far as the adults go...things will be pretty rowdy with the guys outnumbering the girls!
    Yes, once you know you'll want to even it out some. Monties are not hard drivers on the females but the males should be equal in number or less than the girls. I keep 5 pairs together now. I put my extra males with 2 big montezumae x brick red helleri females I have. It's a 4th generation cross that has been seemingly sterile in this generation. I tried their brothers, helleri hi fin males and now pure monty males. Nothing. They seem to get gravid but no fry. It's a shame as they are huge fish (6 inches) with a light orange color overall with the monty body patterning (no black spots as a reg. monty was used in the cross) and the long long straight sword. We shall see what happens.

    Bobby
    Hi Nflytrap,

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    Fifinda 2003....does that mean they were collected oone year ago?
    Yes, they were collected last August. They are beginning to sex out and it looks pretty good, maybe a bit male heavy. It looks like most will be yellows as the yellow male was the dominant breeder. I like the orange color but the yellows have the biggest fins and body size for some reason. Cannot wait to see what the 15 or so younger ones that just hatched in the parents' tank turn out to be. Since some fry are water incubating on their own instead of peat storage I am just letting that happen. You get more with peat though. I need to wet some more fallax peat btw.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    Here in Fresno...I'd love to have lots of rain to collect rainwater. Of course, that never happens, and the water would probably be polluted...though.
    Let it rain for 15-30 minutes and then collect. I have an old roof -- 30 years -- so it runs off crystal clear. Hope it rains!


    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    Are red wigglers the small reddish, purplish, yellowish worms with black rings that fishermen use?
    Yes, only get like 2-3 inches. They are a great fish food, chooped live or frozen and chopped. Earthworms are considered the best all around food once you train fish to eat them. They really make for growth and good breeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    As for the killies, you must be feeding them something really good. How long do these guys live in the wild anyway? Only one month and already almost half the potential size.
    Oh, fallax if you don't overfeed and push to really breed alot and keep around 72-75F would live 2-3 years. They are semi annual which is why their eggs incubate in damp peat or water just fine. Not all their water holes dry up each year. There are many locations of fallax all over the Cameroons

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    Shouldn't they start sexing out soon, esp with all the sparring going on? I've noticed with A. lineatus that the young males can be quickly picked out at about 3/4-1 inch in that they begin to spar with each other(not to mention the orange bar across the bottom of the anal fin).
    Yes, sexing out. Should be good to go in a month, maybe 3 weeks. They are barely a month old.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    Aquariaman's pic and most of the other's of F. fallax look awesome! Orange or yellow, with blue flecks and dark blue bordered fins is life colors, right?
    Yes, those pictures are very true. The pectoral fins on the male have black borders which are impressive. The females are handsome but plain brownish tan. The spotting on the body is very cool as they are so big.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    BTw, I think the monties are starting to sex out. There is no escaping now that the point on the bottom of the fin is a mini sword. The pigment hasn't come in yet, though. The anal fins are forming into gonopodiums too. It looks as if I have at most 4 females...assuming the other two small ones turn into females.
    4 females would be great. Keep me posted as I want you to have enough girls as these throw more boys. The black will fill as they age. It keeps increasing as does the sword and dorsal size and pattern. Look for the late developing largest males with long straight swords and big round dorsals.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    Also, I think the female you sent gave birth without my notice. She probably got rid of a few babies due to stress perhaps. I think there are at least three little gray colored fry swimming around. I offered the adults San Franscisco Bay Brand baby brine shrimp...they loved it. Not to mention the lil ones got to pick at the leftovers. They look so cute with those little plump bellies.
    You should see how they eat the live baby brine! The small fry need it for best development. Next batch she should give you 30 or so fry. Then you'll be on your way. The fry will eat many foods but baby brine makes them grow the fastest, largest and with best color. I got to get you those microworms. I will shoot for this Sat. to mail with grindals. I've just been busy.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    Also, have you tried hard boiled egg yolk? With normal swordtail juvies...this was an instant hit. They'd follow it around biting it as if it were a wriggling worm or something. The monties arent as enthusiastic, but it did stir up a bit of action. The babies hung on the outskirts and grab the particles that came to them.
    Oh, yes, egg yoke is an old food for fry just not too much as it causes an infusoria bloom. If yo can collect mosquito egg rafts and put those in the tank the fry love the tiny newly hatched mossie larvae. Sifted dapnia are great too. Babies are so cute when they get fat. Killie babies are fun as they are little reptors in attacking live food.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]
    As far as the adults go...things will be pretty rowdy with the guys outnumbering the girls!
    Yes, once you know you'll want to even it out some. Monties are not hard drivers on the females but the males should be equal in number or less than the girls. I keep 5 pairs together now. I put my extra males with 2 big montezumae x brick red helleri females I have. It's a 4th generation cross that has been seemingly sterile in this generation. I tried their brothers, helleri hi fin males and now pure monty males. Nothing. They seem to get gravid but no fry. It's a shame as they are huge fish (6 inches) with a light orange color overall with the monty body patterning (no black spots as a reg. monty was used in the cross) and the long long straight sword. We shall see what happens.

    Bobby

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    Not to sure what you consider a not so hard driver, cause the male you sent gives my female one heck of a time. She almost looks pissed as he runs circles around her and moves forward and back. They are both very persistent-I have only seen one "hit". Some of the males seem to be going out earlier than others. One of them is quite small and already has a bit of sword. I just hope the(now 3) "females" are what I think they are!

    I hope to get brineshrimp eggs and all while I get some more supplies...laterite or Ecocomplete and some cool "must haves" we all can't resist.

    Do F. fallax prefer acidic water? I've heard of using coconut fiber for spawning media, but that doesn't acidify the water according to one guy(Clint www.petfish.net)


    The hybrid montys sound awesome. If I end up with a few extra males, I may do some experimenting myself. I have seen a few HUGE swordtails at the petstores lately. Makes me pretty suspicious...especially when you are looking at a swordtail bigger than the male ivory you sent! Of course, those puny, crooked swords arent half as good as the one this guy has right now.

    I've been waiting on those worms! Tell me when you get them out...Thanks!
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    Hi Nflytrap and Spec,

    Nflytrap, I need your address again to send the worms. Spec and Nflytrap, the fallax are looking good sex ratio wise, so I should be able to send you some if you want them. Do you have a tank now, Spec? It will need a perfect cover as killies jump out of the tiniest holes! You'll need to tape over any holes with duc tape or tape plastic wrap over any openings. THEY WILL JUMP OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They do not like temps over 80F -- 72-75F is best. They will live fine in moderately hard, alkaline water (what they are being raised in) but for good breeding they would have to be SLOWLY conditioned over to soft acid water (6.5 pH 3-5 KH and GH) once they mature. They need frozen bloodworms, brine shrimp, freeze dried bloodworms -- a good brand that is , all the live foods, mosquito larvae, chopped earthworms, blackworms, etc. Feed a variety but not too much unless conditioning for breeding as these fish can get overweight and develop dropsey and die. The males chase the females so the females need cover -- rocks, plants especially. They will eat neon size fish. Besides breeding them in peat moss and storing it away, fry are water incubating for me in the parents' 30 gallon and hatching out. This is common with many killies kept in good water with tons of plants. I still want to wait 2-3 weeks before I send but let me know if you want some for sure. They will be the yellow form as all the males appear to be the yellow form. The yellow form gets bigger and has longer fins than the orange. Shipping costs will probably be around 12-15 dollars. Killies will be fine with the swords Nflytrap unless the swords over-populate but killies do best in a species tank or with a few larger tetras or something. In a species tank you will get fry though!

    Bobby

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    How big of a box are you sending them in? Is there room for daphnia. My culture crashed and turned into cyclops suddenly(course of several days)...not to sure why
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    Liberty mollies

    He just listed a few more. I think the comment that mollies from Florida or Texas are not wild fish is pretty funny.
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