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    Dustin,

    Good news on the latipinna. With mollies it is all about space, water and alot of food. They should do well for you now and when you get their fry start them right with lots of bbs and as the fry grow graduated larger tanks and you will get big fish. Pick the late developing males and keep the females virgin and then mate and you can breed some big beauties.

    I wish I had a camera but I don't. The old Innes book has a great photo of velifera. You can find one on the net but find a photo of a wild male and not the hybrid domestic stuff.

    Lord knows what a dwarf blue gularis is. In the old days a dwarf red was smaller than a regular blue as the blues were 6-8 inches then. Not any more. Dwarfs reds have much less finnage. I have to breed my blues as they are nice but not great. We need wild stock and don't get it.

    The kafuensis came down with velvet. Ugh. Nothos are a pain compared to SAA's. They are responding to the salt so it should be ok. The females never got as robust as I like but they are ok. The symoensi look great and the calabarica are like rabbits.

    I have a bunch of monties ready to drop and it looks like I have a few of the unspotted babies coming along. I hope they cross as I want the unspotted's body and fins on the spotted fish. The little red pictas are producing well. Not fast and not all red males but a stock is growing.

    i still cannot get over how hardy the petenensis mollies are. They are great. I really love those guys.

    I will be moving to NYC in the Fall so it will be interesting what happens with the fish. I will need to store eggs and send live fish to friends there if I can even set up enough tanks. I may have to choose a couple of species or just be a keeper for a while until all is settled. It's a bummer but such is life.

    I haven't forgetten the package Joe, just being slow.

    Bobby

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    Bobby: Just popping in real quick but in regards to be package youi don't need to include the airpump-I managed to get myself 7 outlets...the plants you sent me(including duckweed) have worked well for trades! I was a bit amused people wanted duckweed(I usually just dumped it) but I guess if you aren't annoyed by it overunning your tank then it is a cute little plant. ....you might not even have to send grindals as I managed to get a start of those too. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]

    Wow! 6-8 inches! Those most have been absolutely breathtaking(but taken for granted). What do you suppose caused shrinking? Some kind of unintentional selection by us? Not too sure where blue gularis live(think it is Western Cameroon)-but I always thought it funny that their were no recent "collections". Of course, once they do go collect blue gularis they will assign them a location code of sorts at it will be considered unethical to breed them to aquarium strain...


    The 2 remaining kafuensis are doing well and are big enough to eat daphnia. Can't think of something to compare to size but they are growing very fast.

    Hope all is well and this move goes smoothly for you
    ~Joseph
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    Hi Nflytrap,

    Glad the plants worked so well for you. Are you sure you do not need the pump or worms as I can still send? Try Omega One flakes on the worms and keep the soil moist to almost a bit wet.

    The 2 kafuensis may very well be a pair. It can happen that way. Do you still have any unhatched eggs? Having a pair you raised will make all the difference.

    They don't bring in the wild gularis as they are expensive to pack and ship. The Japanese have but we don't. I have tried, believe me.

    No you could cross a new collection with the old strains but just label them aquarium strain. The aquarium strains are all old crosses from the 60's and such.

    My Mambova look better. I am keeping them in the soft water and adding the salt (2 tsp per gallon so far) to see if that works. Usually I treat in hard alkaline water. The plants never like this period.

    I think the gularis got smaller as in the 80's so mmany new species came that people got careless and let them go by the wayside.

    Bobby

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    Bobby,

    Counting the ones I have now I have enough outlet to run 2 BBS hatchers(enough for them to overlap), put corner filters in all the 10 gallons(3) and still have 1 more outlet laying around. Would aeration be necessary in sweater boxes?

    Didn't you mention you had a book? That would be one thing I would be interested in [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img] Also, remembering what happened last time their is always that chance of having the worm culture crash.

    BTw, I managed to stumble across this site

    www.dallaskillifish.com-in the messageboard they have instructions for a really neat DIY corner filter. You use an airpump, airline tubing, small PVC piping or something similar, and a container. Some people use film canisters, others fishfood cans, I may end up using those small plastic yogurt cups with lids.

    Also(providing I can replace an old heater) I may be getting some Chromaphyosemions for one of my ten gallons which for the whole winter has had no permanent residents. Specific ones I will be getting should be Chromaphyosemion splendopleure 'Mayuka Police Station' C89/15. I also know a source of Chrom. splendopleure 'Tiko green' eggs but the former is a nice sized group of fish.

    Great to hear the Mambova are getting better! I've always thought that SAA's were more difficult based on popularity. But then again Nothos for the most part have more coloration but some of the SAA's sport nice patterns and others outstanding finnage.

    I hope they do bring in some wild gularis too. If they are willing to try to bring back Nothobranchius ocellatus and Fp. fallax(are fallax comparable in size to SJO?)then blue gularis shouldn't be too much harder.

    I haven't checked the peat for eggs but I am pretty sure their are a few. How often do 3rd wettings produce fry? The kafuensis are starting to look too big for BBS. How do you go about weaning them onto things like frozen bloodworms and blackworms?

    The worm bin seems to be working well. I've sacrificed all kinds of things-banana peels, some old fish food, a teabag or two, pear cores...etc. A few pieces of brown paper, cardboard, and then plastic keep things moist for as long as possible. It would be nice is perhaps their was a source for large insects that could be cultured with little hassle.

    Thanks!
    ~Joseph
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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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    Hi Nflytrap,

    Yes, the book is there. I will mail things tomorrow no matter what. Send me your address again.

    You could get kafuensis fry on the thrid wetting. I take it you traded the Chunga for the Chromas? Keep them in soft water and you will get fry. Have you seen the huge Chroma site from Europe? The owner is one of the authors of the book I have for you -- amazing set up.

    The Dallas club is hooked to our club. They are growing fast.

    The Mambova look about cured. Salt always works. The symoensi are now all nice and fat but I have to breed fast as 4 people want eggs and I do too.

    The N&RSC of the AKA want 20 pairs of the calabarica to distribute which is great. They discovered that there is a place in Seirra Leone called "Calaba" and the sailor in 1935 said he collected them their and not "Calabar" in Nigeria. The Germans uncovered this information so now maybe they can check the original location after it was lost for 70 years.

    Fallax should be around as alot of wild stock came in in the last 2 years. Brian Watters likes ocellatus so it comes back in when he collects and he collects alot. Gularis does not get attention as it is not a new species. Hopefully. Maybe I will soon have some gularis eggs for you.

    As the fry grow just start adding new foods. If need be chop the larger food a bit. They usually go for everything live or frozen. The more live food the bigger the fish. I hope you get a pair. Bob Morenski will have more this summer so you can check with him if you want.

    I may get another dream fiah Protonothobranchius kiyawensis. Hopefully, I will get the furzeri soon too, maybe just the old location as the red ones are aging and throwing bad eggs. Oh well.

    Bobby

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    Nope. I'm debating what to do with the bag of Chunga eggs. I'm thinking the best thing to do would be to find someone who already has this location of fish to get the bag as opposed to someone trying to start them in their tanks-as the first hatch I tried didn't work very well(few fry and bellysliders).

    If you mean the "Chromaphyosemion Study Group" yep I've seen the site. Makes me wish I could read German! The West African killie site you pointed me to long ago has been a great resource. As for the Chromaphyosemions...According to the owner they have given him no problems whatsoever and he has managed to distribute them. He's downsizing his FR so offered to send the ones he has left(3 females 5 or so males) for shipping. I'm probably going to bite on this one.

    Great to here the calabrica are going to get another chance in the hobby! If they do collect it wil be interesting to see how the wild fish measure up to the ones kept alive in aquariums of hobbyists for 70 years since.

    Gularis eggs would be nice. I've got lots of sweater/salad boxes around. It would be best if I would be able to get a female to pair up this male. Maybe oughtta contact Al or post a "lonely hearts" message to killitalk.

    When should I be able to tell sex on these 2 kafuensis? They both are a bit "territorial" so it seems and try to avoid each other-or the larger one may chase the smaller. I added chopped blackworms and the fish ignored them(I may try to put the worms in something that floats). I've seen them yawn and the mouths are definetly big enough for the smaller ones at least. More eggs would be nice but I've only got room for one species of Notho(and plus I would be apt to get them mixed) on the rack at any given time.

    Found a few photos of your dream fish. The coloring and pattern look almost like a cross between a Notho and an SAA. The shape is also very interesting-a kind of rounded off look with the head fitting better into the body than Nothobranchius(which have a clearly distinguishable head).

    Thanks! Let me know when you've sent the stuff [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]
    ~Joseph

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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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    Hi Nflytrap,

    You know your hatching problems might have been from the cooler temps in your area in winter. I'd try the Chunga again and see. With spring and summer things may change. Of course, it might have been from too of an incubation too but I dount it.

    The Chroma. study group might be the same of the guy's site from Belguim -- Legros or something like that. That's all he raises.

    Definitely ask for a female gularis there are lots around.

    Nothos sex out in 4 weeks but sub males can look like females. They will take the blkworms soon. Just chop them small.

    Kiyawensis is a real odd little fellow both in looks and in breeding. I hope I get them and soon so I can store eggs for the move.

    I may be getting back my old great strain of hi fin and lyretail swords. They were the best I'd ever seen and I stopped raising them when the 6th generation was not so good. Well, I had given some to a friend who runs a small commercial hatchery and he still has them going and in many colors. He says they are very nice so he is bringing me some for the sailfin molly species. I hope they are what they were. The females were 5 inches and the males 4 with huge wide hi fins. I was a nut to stop working with them when I did.

    Bobby

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    Heya Bobby,

    That is a possibility. The water I dunked them in probably was at 70ish but warmed to the set 75 eventually. I was thinking that having it cooler at first was actually a good thing. The Kayuni are nearing the hatch date so I'll see if a 3rd wetting would produce any additional fry.

    I can't keep track of dates(I think I may be at 3 weeks) but what are the first signs? Gut feeling(based on how the fins look at that the outer edge where the rays divide is ever so slightly lighter) seems to tell me I might have 2 males. Hoping it is otherwise of course. Dunno if it is due to age difference but one(smaller one) has a blunter mouth than the other(who has a pointed one). Both are now busy biting pieces off of blackworms which crawl around on the bottom of the tank.

    Notho eggs sure are interesting. I wonder how they manage to keep track of when the rains will come or if perhaps they respond to some kind of outside stimuli(increased moisture maybe-some people claim spraying bags of eggs with water a few weeks before hatch date encourages them to eye up.) I read that someone kept a bag of those P. kiyawensis for 30 years(makes me wonder if this is a typo)! Also, it seems normal practice to leave peat in with the parents for a week...besides peat fouling are their any other reasons? I'm pretty sure the pools in the wild don't instantly dry up one week after the fish spawn...lol

    Those highfin lyretails sound great! Just about the size of the monties. Don't they require a certain crossing procedure to maintain both highfin and lyretail traits? I still remember a very nice swordtail bought when I was probably five. It was a green Hi fin Lyretail(if my memory serves correctly). He didn't last too long in our tank unfortunately but I think he or someone similar may have fathered a few fry. The "F1's" had a mix of standard fin and lyretail, and probably 3 generations later a hifin popped up randomly. Of course they all eventually reverted to standard fin after some time.

    Hopefully I can find a nice female for the now lonely male. He's really nice looking and the tail has grown nicely. Have you seen any blue gularis that sport a strong blue trim on the pectoral fins? With such large fins I think one like that(as long as everything else is nice too) would be particularly flashy.
    Dunno if I ever showed you this but although this is old its a pretty good rep of how he looks. I think the tail streamers may be a bit longer. Its pretty amazing to compare this photo to the very first photos that launched off the topic!




    Keep me updated [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]
    ~Joseph
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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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