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    Hi you guys. Any possibility someone here has some killifish eggs he can sell and send here (Colombia)?? I like killies a lot but they are almost impossible to find here because no one breeds killies here.

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    Hi UtricSeb,

    You don't need killifish eggs; you need to go collecting. Columbia is full of wonderful species of killies. Gnatholebias zonatus was found there in the 1970's and nothing is prettier than Gnatholebias zonatus. The "sabrefin" Terranos dolichopterus is found in Columbia. Both of these as well as Gnatholebias hoignei are foudn in Venezuela. You might find Rachovia and Austrofundulus species in Columbia -- certainly in Venezuela. You will find many species of Rivulus in Columbia. People rarely collect in Columbia anymore due to the political/drug situation but you are in a killie goldmine.

    Bobby

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    Hi Nflytrap,

    Sorry for the delay in answering. I've been busy. Your rack looks great. I'd look for more 10 gallon and 5 gallon tanks as you have the room. The rubbermaid dishwashing tubs are not good fry containers. Look at the Steralite containers at the Big Box stores. You want something close to 10 gallons and that you can filter and see through. If you need a pump to pump all this let me know as I have one you can have.

    I hope the blue gularis are good. Mine are doing great. I have the male from Bob Meyer with the females from David Ramsey. Both strains look great so I am hoping for hybrid vigor. I hope you have mastered peat by now with yours. Gularis do breed better when mature -- 9 months -- and do need soft acid water for good fertility.

    I'm breeding my kafuensis Nazhilla. I lost the whole tank of Mambova overnight. I have no idea what went wrong. They looked great -- robust. They were just dead. Same thing happened to 2 of the zonatus FINCA females which almost killed me. I have a reverse trio left and they are breeding. But back to the Mambova, my eggs from my fish are now ready to hatch and I will hatch them this week. These should produce alot of fry and all the colors. Wish me luck. I should be able to send you new fish early next Spring. When are your kafuensis eggs due? Are you ready to hatch them -- got all the bases covered? Don't risk the tiny fry with making do.

    My N. symoensi are all sexed out. I must have 20 pairs. These are my favorite Nothos. I'm getting the red furzeri as eggs from Italy next Spring and maybe the new yellow location too. I might get a new rachovii location too.

    I have around 50 baby Petenensis now all looking good. The velifera dropped by ate all but 2. I took the angels out so maybe their next batch will make it. I have one male velifera just sexing out that is huge -- HUGE. These mollies have bodies like bulldogs; they are chunky and massive. The petenensis are so peaceful. The males do not even spar.

    The red picta do seem to be getting reddish on the body. I can't wait to see how it develops.

    Glad to see you are going after the redworms.

    Bobby

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    Sorry to hear about the Mambova...you musta been really bummed about that. Its pretty odd, as my female KAF keeled over for no apparent reason on me too(simply found dead floating at the surface). Hopefully this next batch will do better for you. Even though I only kept the males for a brief period of time the colors I saw were just beautiful and sure enough they lived up to your promises of being more beautiful then any photo I've seen so far captures when displaying(same for blue gularis). I can't wait for those eggs to hatch!

    The kafuensis are due in Febuary(Chunga) and March(Kayuni Zam 97/9). Sounds like a long time to a 14 year old but as you said better be making plans. Perfect for me as things will start to warm up. I'm going to send Rick one of the bags of Orthonotus since I don't foresee hatching BBS yet as the plans have not gotten off the ground. I have the moola for one pound of 70% or half a pound of higher grade from BS direct(plus shipping...kudos to Rick). I'd like to get one of those mesh bags but it seems pretty expensive. I'm assuming the dish tubs would be good for hatching the peat in. i'll look into steralite containers. By "clear" they certainly aren't comparable to aquariums or plastic critter keepers correct? I've found a packet of brine shrimp eggs which is at least 4 years old. Probably all mummies but if I can heat things up might make for a test run.

    I heard that flowing water is bad for nothos. The pump you have I'm assuming isn't too powerful for the use in fry trays and whatnot? How would you "wire it all up"? I have a little fluval 1 which might serve the purpose but the outlet end is not designed to receive an airline tube.

    By 5 gallon tanks are you talking about plastic ones? Haven't looked much but 10gallon seems to be the smallest size offered.

    I've been having a trouble with my microworm cultures. 2 I started up got a really odd rancid smell so I threw them out. I think I've got one clean one set up so hopefully I won't lose them. I think it might have been the white bread(too old) so I tossed it and opted for oatmeal. Any ideas what it is?

    With any luck I will be either buying a big rubbermaid or using my amateur woodworking skills to build a "worm bin" of sorts. The worms don't seem to be very prolific...maybe a little more than guppies but i hope I can set it up so I can always have this food around. Raising worms is a whole new
    science...people on Killitalk are quite knowledgeable and put time into posts and providing links. I have found a new use for contents of the daily news, paper shredder, and the garage filled with cardboard boxes...I cannot bring myself to use killifish spawning and CP growing medium as redworm food. The blue gularis love redworms and it is much easier to get them satisfied with those as opposed to frozen bloodworms! Its been a long time since i've owned anything that greedy.

    The blue gularis are doing great! The male is just getting more and more beautiful(fins growing longer) and the female is getting fat. They are in the 46 gallon bowfront and have spawned in there several times at least. Doubt any fry will survive though. I'm unsure of when i will go for a serious breeding attempt at these. I'm not to sure what you mean by low fertility but even if only a few eggs hatch that would work for me as they lay quite a few and would eventually make up for it?

    I found a nearly dead ivory montezumae male outside in the pond about 1 week ago. Attempts to slowly warm it up to salvage it failed. If I do release monties into the outdoor pond i'll obviously have to drain it around mid November and remove all the fish to trade/sell/ or keep for myself.

    I couldn't bear leaving the bluespots outside where I couldn't see them so I moved them to a small container which is still outside. The pair is simply snoozing under thickets of plants as temps stay at around the 40's.

    BTw, I found the way that illegal drugs affect scientists/collectors of killifish or cichlids quite interesting. That and the fact that its toxic to fish is good reason for me why not to do drugs...hehe

    Hope all is well for you and keep me updated and informed.

    As a last thought...are there any good books on killifish? The info in my current book simply isn't enough for me. I've seen the "Pet owners guide"(most likely simply beginner info)and heard much talk about Scheels"Rivulins of the Old World". My Dad usually buys me books for a birthday present. While online info is great, its really nice to be able to curl up on the bed reading an issue of AFM or that article you sent me which must have been read over 2 dozen times by now.
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    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

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    Hi Nflytrap,

    The air pump I have is a Sheago and is very good. It is not a filter just a pump. It can run 10 outlets easily or say 2 brine shrimp hatchers and 6 box filters or sponge filters. Use gang values to set the flow. Nothos do not like alot of movement and fry do not need any for a couple of weeks after hatching provided the hatch isn't huge or the container too small. The rubbermaid bins would be ok to hatch but it would be hard to see the fry only from the top. A critter keeper would be better. Look at people's trash and garage sales.

    A half pound can of bbs should be all you need to start. I use 1/2 gallon glass milk jars to hatch in but 2 liter pop bottles are fine. A one gallon glass pickle jar is great. Delis, restuarants, or supermarkets use the big jars and might save them for you. No need for a fancy hatcher. Water, salt, eggs air 78-82F is all you need. It is so easy as long as you do not hatch too many eggs for the container and use new salt water for each hatch and harvest by 48 hours.

    Yes, old bread in microworm cultures is bad news. I'd go get a fresh loaf tomorrow and set up a new one. I've made that mistake myself and had molded worms overnight. Oatmeal will work but matures slower.

    Redworms are so good, easily for gularis. Just do not satisfy their greediness as they will overeat and can get dropsey. Gularis eggs usually will not be fertile in hard water. The sperm dies or cannot enter. So when you are ready to breed again condition them to RO. A male gularis will usually deplete a female of eggs in a few hours max so you can always just set up a tank with a layer of peat on the bottom and soft acid water and then spend 3-4 hours slowly conditioning the fish to the soft water and then breed them for a few hours and then condition them back to the hard water slowly and then back in the 46. So much change is not great but it could be done. Maybe breed them once a month like this. If you separated them for a few days beforehand the fish would breed better. Of course one can always just enjoy a big pair of blue gularis as they are beauties and it will only get better.

    Yes, the Mambova death was weird and sad. They always seemed weak to me even though they were robust looking. I hope the new fry (cross your fingers) will be robust and strong. The adults were certainly tough. Yes, photos cannot capture killie color.

    I wish Roger Langton's book Breeding Killifish was in print as it is based on how 10 top breeders breed their fish. It sold out fast. It is great. Incredible information. Roger Brousseau's book A Hobbyist's Guide To South American Annuals is very good for information. I had an extra copy but sent it to a frind in Australia. Search for it and hope. You would like the World Of Killifish books (vol. I - IV so far. Vol IV is Nothos and is great.) the AKA publishes. They are expensive but very detailed. Scheel's Rivulins of the Old World is great. I have read it for 35 years. It's a treasure. His newer Atlas of Killifish is not nearly as good. Enjoy Your Killifish from the Pet Library Publishers of the 1960's is a neat little book. The AKA is about to have a new Beginner's Guide which should be excellent considering everyone who wrote it. Joining the AKA and getting JAKA 6 times a year would be like buying a book and a great deal.

    Steralites are pretty clear plastic not perfect like the old days but ok.

    Was the dead male monty nice looking from being outside? I culled my monties down to the next generation today. There are 3 young males that look more robust than the older adults. They are my next breeders. I am still crossing the plain larger monties into the black spotted ones. I also culled down my nezzies to the next generation. The young males sexed out too early in this group which worries me. I kept some young females to add to the big males. I hope their babies will produce the usual big males.

    Fish breeding is always work LOL.

    Bobby

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    Thats great! How big is it anyway? I have one pump which is supposed to run two outlets but it has failed to put out enough strength in its age to do so now. I use that to aerate the gammarus culture.

    I like the idea of conditioning them gradually to RO water. I will probably be using a critter keeper for breeding to cut down on the amount of distilled or RO water i'll end up using. Do blue gularis eat their eggs? I haven't noticed it. Would it be more beneficial to the fish to leave them in the soft water longer before attempting to recondition them back to the harder water? Afterwards I would peat incubate the resulting eggs. I think that raising 30 fry each time would be fine for me...and even if I only raised 2 batches it would be 60 fish(hopefully thirty pairs...LOL) and that would be plenty to share. It would be really interesting if we could unlock the secret of sex ratios and scew it to get say 2:3 sex ratio with females dominating.

    Do you use sea salt for your BBS or do you mix your own? I have some Aquarium salt laying around which claims it can be used to hatch BBS. Basically dehydrated sea water. I've heard of killikeepers using these 1 gallon(or even 1 quart) pickle jars as killi keepers.

    Yep, that young male monty, even half dead, had some incredible colors one him...especially since it was a sunny day. He had more reddish tones to his stripes and the blue irridescence was stunning.

    Besides F&EL,Beginners Guide, and JAKA, what else comes along with an AKA membership?

    The books you mention all sound great. Definetly something to look into. Do you happen to know off the top of your head what other killies were covered in the World of Killifish Series?

    Hope to hear from you soon. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]

    Currently the families of killies which seem to be of most interest to me would be Nothobranchius, fundulopanchax, fundulus, chromaphyosemion, and the SA annuals collectively. Rick is currently keeping a pair of Austrolebias sp. *insert weird number code here LOL* and may provide me with eggs. To your interest he's also keeping 1 pair of Kafuensis Mambova.

    How many people are keeping Chunga and Kayuni anyway? Mambova due to newness seems most common, Kayuni I've seen on Aquabid a few times, and Chunga only once.
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    Hi Nflytrap,

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    Thats great! How big is it anyway? I have one pump which is supposed to run two outlets but it has failed to put out enough strength in its age to do so now. I use that to aerate the gammarus culture.
    It's only about 6 x 3 x 2 inches and is very quiet. It's a good one. I'll send it, a book and that dvd on Notho. breeding I'm letting you borrow.

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    I like the idea of conditioning them gradually to RO water. I will probably be using a critter keeper for breeding to cut down on the amount of distilled or RO water i'll end up using. Do blue gularis eat their eggs? I haven't noticed it. Would it be more beneficial to the fish to leave them in the soft water longer before attempting to recondition them back to the harder water?
    They'd eat their eggs if given a chance which is another reason I love peat. Yes, leaving them in the soft water longer before reconditioning them back would be better but then you'd want 2 soft water tanks so you could separate the female after the breeding as the male can get mean if the female stops being able to lay eggs.

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    Afterwards I would peat incubate the resulting eggs. I think that raising 30 fry each time would be fine for me...and even if I only raised 2 batches it would be 60 fish(hopefully thirty pairs...LOL) and that would be plenty to share. It would be really interesting if we could unlock the secret of sex ratios and scew it to get say 2:3 sex ratio with females dominating.
    Yep, 6-8 weeks in moist fluffed up peat in a plastic fishstore type bag rubberbanded with air inside. Sex ratios are less of a problem than people carry on about so don't worry. I used to hatch 200 gularis fry from a trio conditioned on worms and bred for a day over peat.

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    Do you use sea salt for your BBS or do you mix your own? I have some Aquarium salt laying around which claims it can be used to hatch BBS. Basically dehydrated sea water. I've heard of killikeepers using these 1 gallon(or even 1 quart) pickle jars as killi keepers.
    I use either Morton's cheap old rock salt or the even better pickling salt -- 1 tablespoon to a quart of water -- plus 1/4 teaspoon of Epson Salt to a half gallon. No fancy sea or marine salts. Works like a charm and cheap.

    Gallon glass jars are good for spawning but not permanent homes.

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    Besides F&EL,Beginners Guide, and JAKA, what else comes along with an AKA membership?
    That's it.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
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    The books you mention all sound great. Definetly something to look into. Do you happen to know off the top of your head what other killies were covered in the World of Killifish Series?
    Vol IV goes up to Nothos with Vol. I having started with the Aphyosemions -- so 100s of species are covered. There are no photographs, only drawings. Vol. V will finish off the various genera and maybe go back and do the new species described since the project started in 1994. A Vol. VI is suppose to be all colored photos.

    The AKA is also putting its old Killifish Index on cd and that was a great looseleaf book of information and colored photos. The JAKA's from 1962 on are also being put on cd for the members to buy. i have most of the originals and they are full, FULL of great information. Priceless stuff.


    Quote Originally Posted by [b
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    Currently the families of killies which seem to be of most interest to me would be Nothobranchius, fundulopanchax, fundulus, chromaphyosemion, and the SA annuals collectively. Rick is currently keeping a pair of Austrolebias sp. *insert weird number code here LOL* and may provide me with eggs. To your interest he's also keeping 1 pair of Kafuensis Mambova.
    Austrolebias would be good for you as they like cool winters. They are usually hardy forgiving species. My favorites are the Notho's, SAA's, Fundulopanchaxs and Callopanchaxs.

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    How many people are keeping Chunga and Kayuni anyway? Mambova due to newness seems most common, Kayuni I've seen on Aquabid a few times, and Chunga only once.
    Alot of people never sell their killies except at local shows which is why you want to keep the West Coast Weekend in mind this year. It is usually in the Bay Area and is a huge killie convention, show and auction. There you will see tons of stuff. It is usually in April. Try to go. It is well worth it. The BAKA affiliate usually hosts it.


    Bobby
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    Regarding the DVD I have right now I have yet to get it to work but I will go over and try it on my Aunts player soon. Hold onto yours. Also, your styro box is on its way back.

    The West Coast Weekend sounds great! It would only be a few hours drive at most-but I'm unsure whether or not the folks would be willing to let me go, drive me there, etc. I'll keep updated-do you plan to go by any chance?

    The SJO are spawning in the 46 again. Its really interesting how the male and female "keep in touch" with the males throat to the females back. I wonder if those monties will ever catch on to all that free caviar going around. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]
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    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

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    Drosera capensis

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