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    Does Alan have an email? If I end up losing this female I will probably contact him in spring sometime to see if I can pair up my male again(or perhaps get in a few juvies). The male is really nice and I would like to try getting some offspring from him sooner or later. When did you last keep gardneri?

    Btw, is young females a problem?

    Sorry to hear about the zonatus. Even in photos they are impressive with those long trailing fins which are attractively patterned as well. Hopefully with combined forces you guys can keep them going.

    I will shoot over an email to Billy about the gardneri.

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    Bobby -

    So billy really is on the up and up? I know he sells on aquabid.com - and seems to have some really rare stuff. However he has no pictures, and the pictures he does have arent his. For instance he was selling some Peacock Gudgeon's and had a picture on there that I know originally came from Z-Man! I emailed him to ask if the one pictured was the one being sold, and he was honest and said it wasnt. But I had also heard from several sources that he is very religious and pushes his religion on all buyers as well as sometimes lists untrue location codes etc.

    Maybe you can set this straight? He is oK? I always avoided his auctions because of what I had read and been told. I hope I didnt offend him haha I told him he should buy a digi and put up some pics. I dont buy anything on auction without seeing a pic of it. (and i do want some Peacock Gudgeons haha)

    I need to email Ted again and thank him - hes really the reason I re-joined the ALA [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img] I know there is a guy named Al Anderson in Indianapolis that is big into the hobby, maybe I should go visit him sometime. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img] Actually he is also one of the reasons I subscribe to FAMA, his livebearers article. Ill have to check the name of the other author. Maybe you know him too! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]

    First hand information is priceless and never outdated!

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    Dustin

    And YES I would be happy to pay for shipping and return the box for anything you are willing to send my way [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img] Those are a beautiful strain. I have seen the blue green they are also beautiful.

    I actually Just asked Joe the question of aquarium strains and mixing different types of the same species... It seems to be looked down upon by the Killie people. But isnt this how we got alot of the lfs's bread and butter fish?
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    Bobby,

    I sent an Email to Ted Coletti tonight to again thank him for the Maylandi's he sent an est 2 years ago. He replied almost immediately and informed me he quit fama to goto the TFH! WOW - and then I read your post again and found that - WOW that IS what you said! I thought you just had the TFH and the FAMA confused and his first column was his frist column of the year since they send them in early! I was amazed!

    Good think I am subscribed to both magazines so I wont miss any of his articles! Ted is a great guy!


    Ttyl

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    Hi Nflytrap and Maylandi,

    I will get you Allan's email.

    Sad thing, my friend lost his male zonatus over the holidays so he has females and I have males. Ugh.

    Only problem with young SJO females is that they'd be smaller and less fertile. But they shoot up quickly so not really an issue. He may have a couple of larger ones. Get 2-3.

    Billy seems like a good guy. I have never gotten his fish but I have shipped him fish. He always sends his box and money and we have had a good email correspondence. He is in Ted Coletti's local club so ask Ted. I would trust him. I just think he doesn't take photos. I don't either but then I give fish away.

    Al Anderson is a great guy and you should check him out -- as well as Bill Dyer and Dwayne Wake. These are old killie pros in your area.

    I'll get Al's email for you.

    Yes, killie guys are purists on populations and no crossing. I agree with the stance as it is based on how they define species nowadays through DNA. But I also know many great old aquarium strains of fish were created by simply crossing different locations of the same species. The problem is that some locations can be so isolated that even though they look alike, genetically they are not and fertility problems then occur in the 2nd or 3rd generation of the "hybrid" line.

    The livebearer guys are becoming that way. Both populations of the monties are all over the hobby in pure -- we assume -- form so I am not bothered by crossing mine. I want to see if I get a better and still fertile fish that will then be "an aquarium strain". I am sad that most people no longer create new strains of livebearers by crosses. We are missing out. Monties and nezzies would probably re-make hi fin and lyretail swords as we know them. The old great livebearer people like Joanne Norton and Myron Gordon (both geneticists) would have crossed. Not todays fanatics.

    Ted sent me the galleys of the first half of his 2 part montezumae article for the new TFH column. It will be a winner. I think it comes out in April but the column starts in March. You'll need to check. He talked to all the monty breeders and got pictures of all the populations and strains. You'll see my name

    Wow the new Mambova are growing fast. One's own eggs are do best. If you can get the outside fish to reproduce then those fish you have now raised make it so much easier to keep a species going. They just seem to adjust to your ways then and flourish.

    Bobby

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    Cool! I hope I don't miss that article! Will it have information concerning origins of the strains. Besides blue/green and ivory I haven't seen any others though I'm sure some people may have 'Rascon' from The Xiphophorus Genetic stock center.

    Sounds great on the Mambova! I can hardly wait for my bags to hatch.

    Let me know on Als email.

    Female blue gularis is fine and I'm unsure if she still has popeye or not now but continueing on the 50% waterchange every 2 days regimen-its not too hard for a ten gallon anyway. Male is beautiful, but "lonely"(or bored...depending on how you want to put it....lol).

    BTw, seeing we've brought up this aquarium strain thing-whats your stance on culling fish? How "strict" are you when doing so? I'm pretty sure that you do some pretty hard selecting for larger fish on your monties and nezzies.

    Here is the reply sent from Bghodkiss...it seems rather automated.

    Fund. gardneri nigerianus var Makurdi red $10
    A. Congicum Z82-17 $13
    Aphy. Louessense $11
    Aphy celiae celiae Mambanda $13
    Aph. Poliaki-Boandu.cmm41$13
    Fp. filamentosus 'Ikeja' $10
    Lake Eumojok Fund. Garneri $10
    Fp. Gar Jos Plateau $10
    Fp.Gardneri-Akure $10
    Fp Amieti $10
    Pp Walkeri $10
    All fish are priced per pair
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    Drosera capensis

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    Hi,

    Im signed up for the TFH, I'm sure it will go into effect by March/April.

    Thanks for clearing up the killi locations crossing question. I didnt realize they could be genetically different like that. But I guess humans are, arent they.. why should fish be any different.

    I might look into meeting al anderson. I just dont want to look like a stupid newbie haha. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img] You know what I mean - I guess everyone was one at one time.

    Joe - Im sure thats Hodkiss's normal list he sends out ot inquirys. Check his aquabid auctions. He has alot on there. OR did you just ask for a killie list?


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    Yeah, I asked him just about gardneri strains and didn't even ask for a price list yet.

    Bobby: Have you by any chance ever had experience with any of the pupfishes?

    No need to worry about being a "stupid newbie". [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]
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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula &#39;Red Dragon&#39;(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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    Hi Guys,

    Al Anderson's email is <killiman@iquest.net>.
    Allan Barber's email is <ed_dantes@linkline.com>

    With Billy you might want to ask a bit more about the gardneri populations and see what he says. Use my name if it helps.

    I've collected and kept our local population of Cyprinodon variegatus but that's it. The big pupfish guy in the AKA is Dave Koran on Killitalk. He has many many species and a whole greenhouse for breeding them.

    The second part of Ted's article on the monties will picture all the strains and talk about the various breeders. Part 1 is the history of the fish. He has a good photo of the original drawing of the type for the species made in 1902.

    I cull heavily. I cull all deformed fry as soon as possible. I then cull anything that does not develop properly. Then when I choose the next generation of breeders I pick the 5 best pairs. The rest I sell or give away. If I was raising show fish I'd keep virgin females and set up deliberate breedings and then really watch the fry and cull even heavier. Plus raising large numbers of fry is expensive if you feed them right and you end up with so many tanks if you have any species at all.

    The latest JAKA had a great piece on N. orthonotus by Morenski so I made you a copy Joe.

    Bobby

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