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    Wink

    This is a spin off from the Stjoes topic..

    Ive been having massive deaths of whole groups of fish.. mostly goodied - however I have also lost swords....

    Temps mid 70's
    Filter - Sponge rated for twice the size of tank (and actually tonight I added an additional box filter to each problem tank)

    I have taken a few pics of the dead fish - Maybe this will shed some light on the ....... well whatever is killing the fish..

    These are dead Blue Helleri - Night before I found them like this they were fine and eating.. last meal was flakes and black worms (first time for black worms in 4 days..)


    These are 2 dead MALE Green swords - Only the males died - Females in same tank as well as Goodea Gracilis are fine.. Notice the red on the fish - most the deaths have had soemthing like this......


    Odd the Blues fungused within hours - But the Culture of Amacae I had never fungused over...

    Any Ideas Guys? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img]

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    Have you checked the ammonia concentration? Of course that may be a symptom, now, as opposed to the cause.

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    How long has the tank been set up?


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    My guess: Hmm, you say only the males died? The fins look pretty beat up on the fish in the second picture. Perhaps the males are fighting each other, maybe when you are not watching (at night probably). Separating the males might help.
    Then the basics: How is the temperature, pH, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels? Perhaps you have a record some time before the fish started dying. You may want to start quarantining any fish that are showing bad signs, if you are set up to do so. I've had pretty good success with antibacterial food as a first defense (Petsmart sells it online, sometimes at the stores--Jungle brand).

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    Hi Dustin,

    Water chemistry is the first bet -- ammonia, nitrite, chlorine or pH or hardness rapid change.

    Second potential problem -- blackworms. Blackworms need to be fed chopped as the adult whole worms can cause bloating and death and may even injure the stomach.

    Dead females may have been caused from having too many fry and too big of fry inside due to the high protein worm diet.

    Change water and fast for a day or 2. Chop all large worms. Feed veggies alot for a bit and bbs. Change water as often as possible for a while.

    Sorry to hear about the loss.

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    I didnt explain it all i guess assuming ppl were watching other threads... sorry.. .

    I bought alot of fish at a local convention - however my 72 tank fishroom was not ready.. so they sat in "temp" tanks - 2.5, 5.5 and 10 gal tanks for about 2 weeks. The tanks in the fishroom were setup and filtered with a sponge for about 5 days before the fish were moved from the temp tanks to the perminant tanks... species were not mixed (for the purist )

    Everyone was good for about 2 weeks and then all the sudden Im having mass deaths. Im ordering a Test Kit tonight from bigalsonline.

    As far as the males sparing idea - that could be.. However no need to remove the or seperate them now.. they are all dead....... I lost a Whitie today.. Adding an carbon filter tonight.

    I havent done water changes the way I should - Im still working on the 24/7 drip system - Time is short lately [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img]

    I did add some Aqua-sol to the tanks due to an ich scare upstairs and a slight fungus on 2 of the Toweri group.. Toweri are fungus free and healthy.. so im still not sure whats up.

    Any other ideas with the new info?

    Thanks!

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    I'm thinking its possible your tanks haven't had the time to establish the beneficial bacteria populations so the fish are suffering.

    This makes sense as the fish produce ammonia. With oo few bacteria in the tank ammonia will eventually build up. It eventually gets to the concentration required to severely affect the fish(this is why your fish were fine for 2 weeks).

    I would concentrate on waterchanges. Certain meds will kill the bacteria and make the process slower. A test kit will let you know where in the nitrogen cycle you are if this is indeed what is happening. If you can spread fish thinly in the tanks you have that might also help. Plants would be useful now too.

    Their is also a product on the market called "Bio-spira" by Marineland. It is supposed to contain the correct bacteria required for the nitrogen cycle underwater. I have not tried it but many claim that it works(do a search on messageboards. I remember a huge topic at fishgeeks-and maybe one at fishinthe.net) . Would be worth some looking into.


    Sorry to hear about all this trouble. If indeed what I said is correct then when the bacteria establish themselves water conditions should return to normal. I wish I could write a more lengthy response but this should get you on track.

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    ANYONE WANT TO BUY A FISH ROOM!? ALL BRAND NEW - [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img]

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    Ive lost about 200 dollars worth of fish now and most my goal to go on... [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img]

    So around 9 this evening all the Albino Kribs were fine... And I thought to myself "at least the kribs are doing well.. wonder if its something just killing off the livebearers..."

    well its 12:43 AM same day... 4 hrs.. and most the kribs are dead [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img]

    I bought a veggy chopper and chopped up black worms - well seems they are still killing fish.. look at the stomachs - they are bloated looking [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img] Im really disapointed here..







    Live Fish I moved to a fresh 10 gal -



    The tank they were in... I dont have the water change done - every time i turne it on it leaks alot.. even at 1 lbs pressure - anyway I havent the time suddenly to do water changes as needed - some days i on ly have 30 mins total to feed fish, reply to email and goto bed.. Wasnt like this 2 weeks ago [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img]



    Any Ideas? I bought oversized sponge filters (as seen there) so water changes would be a mininum need.. since I knew I was goign to have alot less time when I ordered the filters.... Are songes worthless? Or are Blackworms just too dangerous?

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