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    Hi Bobby,

    This is Taiwan Moss. Its interesting stuff and even amongst the java moss you can tell which fronds are which immediately. They are more triangular shape and branch off in a more orderly fashion than java moss does. He sent me a good amount so I'm thinking of finding a way to produce a lot of it. I think when grown in it will look nicer than java moss when tied to wood.

    http://www.killies.com/images/TaiwanMoss01.JPG

    I will keep my eyes open on fry from the gardneri. They have plants in the little tank but also a yarn spawning mop that I made. Kind of amusing that when I put it in both fish began to inspect it excitedly and shortly afterward began to spawn.


    At about 2 weeks now...how big are these zonatus? When will they begin to sex out?
    When you are sending the fish out, are you basically leaving them in the care of others and they will send you back some later?

    The weather is cooling off over here. I may be bringing those Jordanella adults back inside sometime soon.

    Have you experimented with raising fish outside recently? I found something interest with the Jordanella. I was pouring a batch of fry into an outdoor tub and when I was done I realized I had maybe ten fry stuck at the bottom of the bucket. I added in some water and decided to drop them into this big jar of putrid greenwater that had been brewing on the patio for a week or so. It turned out that the flags inside this smelly mess grew much faster than fry by all other methods(inside with daily water changes and BBs, outside in a tub...etc.) Ironically the ones that I carefully emptied into the tub suffered huge losses from yet more hidden damselflies(!) and they are almost all gone now. I still have more fry than I quite know what to do with and I've popped an ad up onto killitrader in case anyone wants any Jordanella eggs.

    ~Joseph
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    Hi N,

    The zonatus started sexing out at 3 weeks at one inch. Some are well over an inch now. A few are still not quite one or the other sex. I think I have a good number of females. They are so cute. Hopefully, those who get breeders will breed and then send me eggs or fish later.

    Bobby

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    Hey Bobby,

    Sorry bout the long absence. I'm pretty sure things must have changed by now. Have those little zonatus sexed out yet?

    Not much has been happening as of now. Did bring the Jordanella back inside. Also, when was the last time you kept nigripinnis? Along with the gardneri I got some of Dougs Aust. nigripinnis 'Villa Soriano'. I've heard quite a bit of conflicting info on them...particularly hatching/incubation temps. I'm currently keeping them at 75 with the Notho eggs. People generally reccomend usually cold water to hatch them...but a few say it isn't really necessary. According to Lee Van Hyfte they probably aren't quite cold hardy enough to stand the cold here(40 degrees). I may give it a shot with 1 or two fry if things go very well.

    The monty colony looks like it will bounce back after the episode with the SJO. Noticed at least 1 juvenile in their and I expect the females will deliver some more.

    ~Joseph
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    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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    Bobby...is this fish by any chance familiar to you? I remember you wanting a different Macropodus species(think it was M. ocellatus).

    http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin....8948149
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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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    Hi Nflytrap,

    The zonatus are all sexed out and it looks like around 10 solid pairs. Interestingly, this batch has all males with black lined anals; whereas, the population always threw both black and orange lined anals. The breeders were both types. I wonder if these will threw orange fish. They all look great.

    I'd check with the Argentine hobbyists on the Cynolebias group on Yahoo. They know the nigripinnis habitats and temps. Just sign up and post. I don't think cold water is necessary for hatching but maybe cool - 68F. I did find that nigripinnis will turn into bellysliders at 6 weeks of age at times and I think in my case it had to do with heat. SA hobbyists always talk about 40F weather in Argentina.

    That paradise fish is a great one and is related to the black paradise fish but it is not ocellatus. That seller is also one of the great all time hobbyists and a master killie breeder.

    Bobby

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    Hey Bobby,

    Congrats on the zonatus! When these more tasking killies get to spawning, are they prolific? Also, what diet are you feeding them?(and would you feed other SAA). I hear they are very prone to bloat from too much rich food.

    I will look around for that group on Yahoo. If they can't take those temps(wonder if it may vary based on location) then I'll be raising them inside...but still no heater.

    That guy indeed does seem to be a master killifish breeder to say the least...and also he takes great photos! Seems to have a taste for rare anabantoids too.

    Will be posting up a new thread to update on some fish which have not received much limelight recently.
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    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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    Hi N,

    Well, I wish I had my daphnia, grindals, flies and microworms for the zonatus but they have to make do with live BBS, adult brine shrimp, freeze-dried bloodworms and frozen bloodworms. I will be distributing them all soon and will inform the people to get the other food in their diet as bloodworms and blackworms overfed and unchopped due most certainly cause bloat/dropsey in SAA's. I try to feed those only as conditioning foods once the fry stop growing and then for only a week or so at a time. Daphnia, BS and fruit flies are great foods for avoiding bloat and the worms are good for conditioning. Keep SAA's clean especially when using peat -- no old water and skipped water changes and no filter-less tanks. It looks like I have at least 10 pair of the zonatus -- maybe 12. That's about 2 to 1 males which is good for them. They are gorgoreous over all the java moss with their electric blue green bodies and huge fins at attention. I love them and have for 35 years now.

    The Cynolebias group is great. read all the archives -- intense information. Google Cynolebias or South American Annuals and you'll find it fast. Great stuff.

    Bobby

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    I'm thinking of setting up either Daphnia or fruitflies for the SAA/Nothos soon. Wormwise(rich foods) I've got it covered as the redworms are producing incredibly well and blackworms are easy to get here. Still experimenting with hatching BBS but I am definetly getting better hatches than I used to. It is now less than a month to the hatching time for the Aust. nigripinnis. Will be getting containers ready.

    I haven't been able to find the SAA group on Yahoo...I think it is probably a private group to keep out spammers. How would you get in to take a peek?

    Great news on the zonatus! Hopefully the other people who get them have the success you have had and are able to distribute them.
    1 Nxventrata

    D. muscipula & D. muscipula 'Red Dragon'(barely)

    Sarracenia leucophylla(seedling)

    S. purpurea and Drosera filiformis filiformis/ intermedia seeds waiting to sprout.

    Drosera capensis

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