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    Well supposedly, if you were to take a large amount of high spin state ORMUS minerals, your body would be sorta overcharged (because of the superconductive property of some ORMUS minerals like gold), and you would most likely feel sick for a while. It is potent enough to where you only take a few drops a day, and you let it be absorbed in the mouth without letting it go strait into your stomach. I have encountered absolutely nothing to suggest any sort of long term problems. This is why many of the good, true sellers prefer that you start with something less potent than the fully energised ORMUS gold (or white powder gold). The only threat to be reported in the possibility of the monoatomic ORMUS minerals to revert back to a metallic state inside the stomach, due to stomach acids. This would really only happen when using poorly refined ORMUS minerals. David Hudson (the one who pattented the process for forming, extracting and refining, the ORMUS minerals) along with very old alchemical texts describe a necesary process of energising the white powder of gold, to keep it in a high spin state. When fully energised, the pure white powder of gold loses much of it's weight, is pure white, and doesn't hold the danger of returning to a metallic state. This is precisely the reason why you would need to do a lot of research into ORMUS minerals, and deeply check the integrity of the supplier of ORMUS. I have done so, and have found two sources to be highly trustable.

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    I'd be very cautious about taking any of that stuff, since it is obviously not "Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Gold". You should have it chemically analysed to find out what it really is.

    Also, I found this. One of these scam artists tried to make a Wikipedia article about "ORMEs" to promote his products - they were having none of it.

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    "You took too much man, too much, too much..."[img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]

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    Here is an interview with Laurence Gardner, a bestselling book author, about white powder of gold.

    http://www.nexusmagazine.com/article...ceGardner.html

    About him- http://www.graal.co.uk/

    I don't know what that was that you posted Nep_grower, but what makes you think that what I'm getting is not real ORMUS, especially when I didn't even name my source?

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    Possibly the fact that such a thing does not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (lol @ Dec. 07 2005,2:01)]I have encountered absolutely nothing to suggest any sort of long term problems. This is why many of the good, true sellers prefer that you start with something less potent than the fully energised ORMUS gold (or white powder gold). The only threat to be reported in the possibility of the monoatomic ORMUS minerals to revert back to a metallic state inside the stomach, due to stomach acids. This would really only happen when using poorly refined ORMUS minerals. David Hudson (the one who pattented the process for forming, extracting and refining, the ORMUS minerals) along with very old alchemical texts describe a necesary process of energising the white powder of gold, to keep it in a high spin state. When fully energised, the pure white powder of gold loses much of it's weight, is pure white, and doesn't hold the danger of returning to a metallic state.
    OK, first, why would you expect to hear about negative results? ORMEs haven't been clinically studied in the long term, and beyond that, you haven't cited a single source critical of the theory. Second, how is it that adding energy to these things makes them lose weight? That just doesn't make sense. Doesn't an energetic body impose a greater gravatic force than an uncharged one of equivalent mass?
    The point people are trying to make is not that these ideas are 'too far out' or you're too young; it's precisely that you don't have convincing evidence - it's exactly the same protest we had to Turi. You've only shown one side of the story, and all you can do is point us to poorly-written secondary accounts written from primary literature that has nothing or little to do with ORMEs in particular. Citing 'very old alchemical texts' is nowhere near scientific - it's hardly even compelling, with all the poor science conducted in the name of alchemy. The documents you refer to are unjustified speculation.
    I can tell you right now that, whatever David Hudson is writing, some of it came from the fact that he holds the patent and stands to make money on any interest regarding ORMEs, be they real or not. You need to find somebody else who's jazzed about ORMEs to latch on to, because chances are this guy is feeding you a load. There are just too many holes; the claims that these publications make vaguely defy known laws of physics, and if they really had these miraculous properties, they would be too valuable to have escaped the notice of pharmecutical and military developers.
    And on a final note, when a company has to interview you before deciding to sell you their product, it generally means they're looking to cover their butt for something. ORMEs aren't weapons or state secrets, so my only thought on why they wanted to know so much about you is that they can't afford to sell this stuff to someone who might sue them for misinformation or false advertisement. Also, you've got to think; if they have time to interview every customer as thoroughly as you claim, how much business could they really be doing? It has to be immensely profitable to justify those procedures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (seedjar @ Dec. 07 2005,10:38)]There are just too many holes; the claims that these publications make vaguely defy known laws of physics
    "The gifts that go with this are: perfect telepathy, you can know good and evil when itís in the room with you, you also can project your thoughts into someone elseís mind. You can levitate, you can walk on water, because itís flowing so much light within you that you literally donít attract gravity. And when you understand that when you exclude all external magnetic fields, when you exclude gravity, you are no longer of this space time. You become a fifth dimensional being. You can literally think where you would like to be, and go there. Just disappear. You also have other attributes that they go into. You can heal by the laying on of hands, and can cleanse and resurrect the dead within two or three days after they died. You have so much energy that you can literally embrace people and bring light and energy back into them. " (taken from www.halexandria.org)

    I guess you could put it that way. :P

    Seriously, is this even worth discussing? I am at loss to see how anyone could actually believe these claims.

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    Evidently, there are a lot of subject of physics that you DON'T understand, particularly the newer types of physics that they didn't teach you in high school [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img] . I don't blame you for not being able to understand a lot of the principles behind it, but it's a childish mistake to so needlessly dismiss it because you don't understand, or take the time to learn it. That's all I can say. And you want to know why I haven't reported any views against it? Because I haven'ty been able to find any [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/mad.gif[/img] ! Simple as that! I can't find anyhting more than a word or two against the existance of ORMES, and certainly not anything that would even be of the standards of views that advocate the existance of ORMES. In fact, about the only views I've heard from you guys against their existence are ones that you have made up in your own little minds, and have nothing scientific to back them up! So I guess we're just going to stay here in limbo, aren't we? Or perhaps I should say "you".

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