OK, first, why would you expect to hear about negative results? ORMEs haven't been clinically studied in the long term, and beyond that, you haven't cited a single source critical of the theory. Second, how is it that adding energy to these things makes them lose weight? That just doesn't make sense. Doesn't an energetic body impose a greater gravatic force than an uncharged one of equivalent mass?[b said:Quote[/b] (lol @ Dec. 07 2005,2:01)]I have encountered absolutely nothing to suggest any sort of long term problems. This is why many of the good, true sellers prefer that you start with something less potent than the fully energised ORMUS gold (or white powder gold). The only threat to be reported in the possibility of the monoatomic ORMUS minerals to revert back to a metallic state inside the stomach, due to stomach acids. This would really only happen when using poorly refined ORMUS minerals. David Hudson (the one who pattented the process for forming, extracting and refining, the ORMUS minerals) along with very old alchemical texts describe a necesary process of energising the white powder of gold, to keep it in a high spin state. When fully energised, the pure white powder of gold loses much of it's weight, is pure white, and doesn't hold the danger of returning to a metallic state.
"The gifts that go with this are: perfect telepathy, you can know good and evil when it’s in the room with you, you also can project your thoughts into someone else’s mind. You can levitate, you can walk on water, because it’s flowing so much light within you that you literally don’t attract gravity. And when you understand that when you exclude all external magnetic fields, when you exclude gravity, you are no longer of this space time. You become a fifth dimensional being. You can literally think where you would like to be, and go there. Just disappear. You also have other attributes that they go into. You can heal by the laying on of hands, and can cleanse and resurrect the dead within two or three days after they died. You have so much energy that you can literally embrace people and bring light and energy back into them. " (taken from www.halexandria.org)[b said:Quote[/b] (seedjar @ Dec. 07 2005,10:38)]There are just too many holes; the claims that these publications make vaguely defy known laws of physics
Fortunately in my time alchemy had no place in the physics classroom. Have things changed?[b said:Quote[/b] (lol @ Dec. 07 2005,10:55)]Evidently, there are a lot of subject of physics that you DON'T understand, particularly the newer types of physics that they didn't teach you in high school.
[b said:Quote[/b] (lol @ Dec. 07 2005,2:55)]Evidently, there are a lot of subject of physics that you DON'T understand, particularly the newer types of physics that they didn't teach you in high school. I don't blame you for not being able to understand a lot of the principles behind it, but it's a childish mistake to so needlessly dismiss it because you don't understand, or take the time to learn it.
Perhaps I could help?[b said:Quote[/b] (lol @ Dec. 07 2005,10:55)]And you want to know why I haven't reported any views against it? Because I haven'ty been able to find any!
OK, first off, how can you scientifically rule out the possibility of a standard 'spiritual effect?' If this stuff really can make me transcend, why wouldn't you? Second, how much of this historical stuff can really be proven? It's written somewhere; so what? I happen to know there are millions of copies of Lovecraft novels floating around; does that mean that some tentacle god is waiting for fish people to sacrifice me to him in the basement of an old Victorian mansion?[b said:Quote[/b] (lol @ Dec. 07 2005,2:57)]I have dropped the advocation for spiritual claims, because any spiritual affects are completely dependant of the user of ORMEs, and has little scientific basis. Everything else physical and historical can be proven, and ignored if "you" so chose.