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    Why not spread the love?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (nepenthes_ak @ Mar. 15 2006,10:01)]Why not spread the love?

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    Hi Barry -

    To me, this is worse than acting like you have a patent on the plant. At least if you had a patent, you would get the plant out to others! A 'No Grow' clause? Absurd! I agree with Bugweed...get the plants and throw caution to the wind. The growing and SHARING of plants is what drew me into the wonderful world of CPs. Don't lose sight of this just because someone thinks they can tell you what to do with a plant that you have paid for.

    Go for it! Then share all you get with me! LOL

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    I am of the opinion that any true CPer who actually is in it for the plants will work to get rare plants out there as fast as possible. Putting a "strangulation rule" on certain plants has the opposite effect so I do not see how the person selling could be seen as being interested in "helping" the community or the plants.
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    Interesting topic, what about the "patented" or "trademarked" varieties ? I realize there are only a few of them but do we trade these guys ?

    I recall a big stink in the greenhouse industry several years ago with the patent rights of geranium varieties. The whole thing was a mess since every cutting from the stock parent plant was to be paid royalties on of about $0.03 each. (as far as I know it still is this way and rightly so) Some people didn't pay and they went to court to settle for so much etc... Some honest guys paid and sucked it up as cost of business. Then the growers from a different country didn't pay at all since the patent rules didn't apply and shipped in a buch cheap. Messy bunch of business.

    As far as I'm concerned if someone takes all the time to breed and patent a fantastic, stable variety then I'll pay royalties if the plant warrents being collected. It really is unprofitable for these guys though unless they get a contract grower to TC a gazillion and send them out to wally-world to be resucued by all of us !

    Does anyone know the legalities of shipping drosera seed internationally ? I'm curious about sending some to a friend in a far away land and receiving some in return.
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    I think I agree with most other folks who've posted so far, I think it's RIDICULOUS

    Barry, what you did was in no-wise the same thing- if you had included a clause where the person was not allowed to give anymore than 2 plants away, after which they had to charge a rate (set by you I guess) for any material distributed after the first 2 "freebies" you may be in a similar spot... and I would also commend you for your choice of actions, by simply avoiding the seller due to your inability to follow their goofy wishes and spending your money elsewhere, you are taking a very morally responsible stance on the issue, Bravo!!

    As for people who put work into making cultivars, whoever posted that the best way would be to try to get the large supply and get all the possible profit out of the initial offering has it about right, that is really the only way I can think of, due to the possibilities mentioned by droseraguy or international chicanery etc.

    But overall, anyone with a naturally occurring (albeit possibly even extremely rare) species who tries to tell anyone what they can or can't do with the species is pretty much nuts in my books

    By the way, are the plants of which you speak painstakingly hand-made crosses made by the seller etc, or simply rare species which certain types want to keep to themselves for (seemingly) selfish reasons?? That may colour the debate slightly depending on the response
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    The sad thing is this is exactly what's happened with most of the agriculture industry.

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    lol i was going to post something on here about this when i first saw it last month, infact Pyro and I had a conversation about it via email and i involved another person that i thought had a personal interest in the situation. aparently it did no good going by this weeks list. i personally thought about purchasing some of the plants with the express interest of dividing/reseeding as much as possible to get them in as many hands as possible but i decided ive already have to many irons in the fire and didnt feel like lining the individuals pockets with my hard earned cash even if it would be fun to torque him off.

    i say its idiotic but than again Tamlin took me under his wing when i first joined here and i would hate to think i would take part in something that goes so far against his beliefs as far as CPs
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