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    Let's positive thinking! seedjar's Avatar
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    So... no one seems to have noticed that this lovely activity was assembled by the great and powerful Oz himself... Hence I doubt that he has much of a problem with it. It's probably in a well-protected reserve; it's obviously someplace of which Ozzy feels secure about divulging the location to strangers. I don't believe there's anything to worry about and I think it's a great way to get nature-types into CPs and CP conservation. Good job Ozzy.
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    Livin' like a bug ain't easy / Livin' like a bug ain't easy... o//~

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    SirKristoff is a poopiehead Ozzy's Avatar
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    Hey thanks for spilling the beans on me Seedjar. I have wanted to place a geocache at a cp site ever since I got into it. I had the same concerns that was brought up here. I knew that any site I chose would have to be a protected site. If you look of the Internet for cp sites in this area you can find some very fast. The most well known are Carolina State Park, TNC in the Green Swamp, and the plant trail at the NC aquarium in Ft. Fisher. With the exception of the Aquarium plant trail the other places are so big that you still have to know where to look to find anything. So anybody that has the intention of poaching will find this site very easy anyway. It's listed on the Internet, that's how I found it by the way.

    Like I said the other places are so big that it will be easy to sneak in and take plants without being noticed. Unless you want to take a long hike through the woods, the site I chosen has one way in and one way out. You have to enter through a elementary school playground, walk by the back door of a cafeteria, and there are countless windows in the school. If anybody is walking through there with a shovel and a bucket it will be pretty obvious. Although if somebody really wants the plants they can figure out a way to get em.

    There is another and more important reason I choose this site. First you need to understand the reason I choose to plant this cache in the first place. Even though cp's are all around this area, most people that live here don't know where to look. I had always wanted to see vft's but never knew where to look. If I did my interest probably would have grown years before it did. So I think education is a major key to saving these plants. Now for the reason I choose this site for my cache. There is another factor about this site that differs from all the other cp sites I know. The plant there are pretty much worthless to collectors. I told you that this site is behind an elementary school. I assume that the plant trail is maintained by the school. If you noticed, there are S. leucophylla growing there. The only way I can think that they got there is that the students planted them as part of a project. All the pitcher plants have cross pollinated that it's impossible to tell what is what. I don't know what is natural to the area and what was planted. I can't even say for sure that any of the plants there are natural. They all may have been planted. The people that I want to discover this place wouldn't know the difference anyway. But just look how excited that the two people were that already found it. The Fraygirls are a team made up of a mother and two young daughters, and they are the type of people I wanted to find this area. You knows if there was a spark of interest with the two kids. This site has every cp that grows in this area, plus one. So I knew this was the right place. I can achieve every positive objective of getting as many people as I can to see these plants, without many of the negative problems of destruction of the a habitat that usually comes with high traffic. So this was the perfect opportunity.

    Oh yeah, welcome tothe forums Tiffneycase, I really like the way you think.

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    I would love to see the site myself even though it is largely hybred plants. Even though they were introduced they are now wild plants. As I said before I know why the sites are kept secret, but I also think its like putting the Mona lisa or other work of art in a vault never to be seen except by a select few people. Tiffney Case I agree with you that eduation about conservation is the key to their non destruction, and WELCOME! I also believe though that those plants that are endangered SHOULD be cultivated be as many people as possible. I am not saying plunder them from the wild, but rather ONE seed pod be taken by an approved nursery then grow as many of those plants as possible and pollinate getting more seed and making more plants. Also some tissue culture, but I do believe in having a little genetic variation too so not all should be tissue culture. That way the plants are available and do not need to be poached because then it will be more trouble than its worth to collect wild plants. I see it happening with orchids all the time. The entire plant is illegal and therefor every serious collecter wants it. Then the wild sites get stripped to feed the demand. It has happened with the newest species of paph. Paph Kovicii(sp) It is a huge pink paph. The largest to date. It makes the Rothchildianum look small. There are some growers here in the states that have plants that came herer BEFORE the flasks were made available for the plants. Peru allowed 5 nurseries over there to collect a certain number of plants to start a breeding program so the wild plants will be not needed to feed the desire of the collectors. Granted there are still poacher of plants available on the market, but it lowers it some. Especialy when the flask of Kovicii(sp) are still going for over 500 bucks a flask. Even when its culture is still being written. So I feel that every plant that is in demand should be cultivated by as many people as possible starting from a single seed pod or maybe 5 just so the population is not disturbed in the process. That way if need be they can be reintroduced if the need arrises. Not everyone can be controled and there are plants that are now extict in the wild, but since they are in cultivation there is the chance for them to be reintroduced to their natural location if it still exists. Have fun everyone!
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