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    Ok, Kristi. First, you challenge their abilities to be the stewards the Good Lord asked them to be, to care for each other, and the land we live on. We have a responsibility to God, and our children, as well as ourselves, to maintain these plants in their natural condition, or get them out of there where they can be cared for. A positive gotta help'em or get them to those who can, would make better sense. You have to appeal to the Chrisitan mind with Christian ideals! Stewardship is one of the important, top of the list ideals from God! Give that a shot. Now, is this Perry County, or not??
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    Sorry, it is close to Perry county, but it is Greene county. We are very near the Perry county line.

    Pyro and Plantakiss, that is a better idea than me trying to approach them about these plants. They are very weak looking (the plants, that is). I dug up two of them and brought them home, and the "wings' are wide, meaning not enough sunlight. They definitely could be healthier.

    The problem with trying to clear out lumber in this area is that they aren't going to do it. That subject has been approached in the past, and they just aren't going to do it. If you have any paperwork or anything from the NASC about convervation I would be glad to have someone look at it. Burning this particular area might also be a problem since it is so close to the house. This is literally just a very short distance behind my house, practically in my back yard. There is normally not any burning done so close to buildings. I am open to any suggestions about this, however.

    We are dealing with very small minded people here. We just had a bad week last week. My son got lost in the woods. He is 7, almost 8 years old. That is how we found these plants, actually, when we were out looking for him. Anyway, when we got back after finding him, the house was on fire. Insurance is covering all costs of repair, but we are having to do the work ourselves since it is impossible to hire workers right now due to hurricane Katrina. Every available contractor is still busy working on hurricane damage. So if we wanted to be able to live here any time soon, we have to do it ourselves. That is fine, my husband was a contractor before he was a preacher. He knows carpentry work, and he wanted to do the work himself anyway. the work that has previously been done in this house is shoddy and poor quality. However, we are getting all kinds of trouble from the people about it, the secretary in particular. They are trying to dictate every thing we do in the house, down to what color to pain the walls, etc. Which is stupid, because we are the ones living here, not them. What it all boils down to is a control issue, and a jealousy issue. We are in a very, very poor area, and I guess me and my husband make a little more money than some of them do here, and they don't want us to have nicer things than they do. We don't make nearly enough money, but they probably don't see it that way. They were sooo jealous when we went on a cruise last summer. There is one church member who has a beach house, and nobody likes them, and it is a jealousy issue. It is like we are dealing with children here. So we are already having trouble from them about fixing the house, it is NOT the time to approach anybody about a patch of "weeds" growing in the woods (that is how they see them). At least not for me to approach them, they are already bad feelings about us wanting to "fix the house up" a little. See, by us doing the work it is saving a lot of money that would be paid as labor to a contractor. I think they are worried that we are taking that extra money for ourselves, which we could do as labor charges, but we are not. We are making the house better. Laying better flooring than was in here before, etc. They are jealous and petty over the whole thing. Only one person told us they were glad nobody was hurt in the fire and that we didn't lose anything important, and that we found our son okay. So like I said before, you have to understand small southern town mindset. Obviously those of you replying back to me about it really do not understand the demographics of this area, or it would never be suggested that I try to approach them about the subject. If I can find a way to do so unintrusively, I will do so. But I am certainly not going to let these plants turn into something that my husband loses his job over. you may think that sounds rediculous, but it could happen.

    Okay, off my soapbox now.

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    If a burn is not feasanble you can always work the same type project as the GA S. montana bogs. Clear cut the smaller scrub and such and "ring" the trees. More labor intensive but still functional. Not nearly as whole out "destruction" either. You'd still need land owner permission though.
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    That sounds good. I might take on that project myself. What is ringing the trees? Does that kill them? Is all the leaf litter and twigs and things a problem? I wonder if it is choking out the plants. There really isn't a lot of underbrush in this area. It was clear for the most part, maybe a few little things growing, but it was just shady by the trees was the main thing I noticed.

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    Im diggin bugweeds idea.

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    I realize the ethical thing to do would be to get the land owners permission to collect the plant, but since that may be tougher than expected. I know it may be morally wrong, but since the people consider them "weeds" any how, why not just dig up the plants and either grow them yourself or send them to growers willing to grow them for NASC. The plants have location data. Since the seeds obviously were spread there by animals or some other situation into an area suitable to start, but after everything else has grown around the plants the area cannot maintain the plants in its current condition, and the land owners are not going to restore the area to suitable conditions, I for one think this is unmitigated circumstances for a covert rescue. If the land owners think they are "weeds" and refuse to do anything about the are then the "weeds" need to be removed so they can be saved. I agree with schloaty and like a good fight every now and again. If you don;t believe me go ask my boss. The good thing is she knows I am correct about some of my grievances, but she is trying to appease her day shift people. Thats neither here nor there though. The fact still remains that those plants need rescuing, and if the land owner isn't going to do what is necessary then someone should. REMOVE THE PLANTS and get them to someone who can grow them.

    Many are not going to like this, but here goes one of my analogies. Think of these plants as the people Saddam was neglecting and killing. The land owner Saddam was not going to do anything about them so someone had to. OK maybe not the best analogy, but basically along those same lines. Someone has to take up for those plants since they can't take up for themselves.

    BugWeed's idea is a good one too, but to use that one you would have to assume they follow all lines in the bible and assume they interpret it the way you do. There is one line in the Bible that says. "I have given you all the seed baring plants and herbs to use." Yet most of the bible thumpers (My apologies to the religious folks here) still think Marry Jane is bad. Even when their covenanted Bible says that God said all the seed baring plants and herbs were for us to use. That would mean the Sarrs were as well, but most consider them as "weeds".
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    Uhgg, Theirs a verse in the bible, that says something about taking things that make youre state of mind change, that is bad. Thats why it is ok to Drink some wine, But not get trashed on any thing.

    Any ways we are supposed to fallow the Laws of the world unless they conflict with what god wants. Drugs illegal = conflict with gods law = Bad!

    If you find youre verse Ill find mine ok?

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    Well, our church is in a tizzy right now, and I know it is because the devil is getting his claws in it. We have had some high attendance, a baptism, a new person get saved, and things started looking up spiritually. So then of course he tries to attack us to ruin all of this for us, like making the people want to fight over how we paint our house! It happens every time. But anyway....

    I wouldn't find trying to rescue the plants and ship them to people, and I will take as many as I think I can handle and grow them myself. I can't do it right now though, I have some moss orders I still need to get out, and I have to get my house in order from our fire we had last week. It will be a while before I could get to it. I got two of them the other day and I have them in a pot in my yard in full sun. I tried to dig up as much of their natural soil around the roots as I could.

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