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    Here's my Datura inoxa (moonflower) my only one blooming currently




    This flower went from bud to fully open since yesterday morning until 8 or 9 PM when it opened fully. This morning you can see the bloom is sill there but once the sun hits it at noon the flower will be shot but there's already one getting ready to open again tonight the tall twisty yellow bud you see. This Datura has a slight fragrance but not nearly as strong as my Lilium regale. I don't recall which Daturas I've had in the past which had a very overpowering fragrance. My other species are not blooming yet, my yellow double D. metel is getting ready to bloom a new flush, it smells like lemon pudding! I killed some bugs on that one with insecticidal soap which looked like a fuzzy white bug with big furry rabits ears any idea what those were?

    Are you growing Daturas or Brugmansias? Lets see some shots!
    My Brugmansia is taller than me but still not blooming even with 4-5 hours of direct sun per day any idea why?

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    Used to, would like to again. The seed pods are awesome, and I love the way the cigars unroll...and the scent....ahhhhh! Watch out for the sap, wash your hands after touching the leaves....you don't want to injest the slightest amount of this plant...it is highly psychoactive but the experience is a hellish nightmare, and potentially deadly. Nonetheless, it is an awesome plant, and better yet, it grows like a weed, because it IS a weed!
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    I have all the wild species of Datura coming up but the oak leaf variety (D. quercifolia) it seems like the seedlings are always very weak and die before making very many leaves.

    I'm always fondling my Daturas, probably why I'm so plant crazy this summer! I've never felt any effects from burning dried Datura leafs or flowers on charcoal disks as insence but nothing compares to the scent of the freshly open blooms on a hot summer night! Thankfully my cat has no interest in them, only grassy leaved plants get his attention. He ate all of my Irises this spring...!

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    I have seeds of a datura I collected last fall...haven't sown them yet. I love them but they get so big I haven't dared to add one to my yard yet.
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    I had a double purple and triple yellow I grew. They seem to reseed themselves, but that corner of the garden is getting pretty full and I haven't looked too closely to see if they will come back this year. I prefer the Brugmansias. Larger plant, larger flowers, more blossoms and heavier scent.
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    tamlin's right. they have high amounts of atropine and scopalomine (sp)

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    According Ulrike & Has-George Preissels book on Angels Trumpets and Thorn Apples the compounds are more and less active at certain times of the year, certain light levels, temperatures, etc. But yeah, good idea not to let the kids of pets chew on them.

    As I say, after handing some hundred seedlings and larger plants this year (raised for a local nursery who deals uncommon plants) I haven't had any terrify phantasms or animal hosts leading me into the hills.

    I had a friend while I worked at the Rennaisance Faire who was very into Carlos Castadena and always wanted to experiment with 'Jimson weed' (D. stramontinum) after reading his books gloriying the experiences. He was never able to acquire any in his short lifetime (likely a good thing) but no other write ups I've read have lead to the idea that Datura was a good plant for illicit purposes. Daturas chemicals are used in a compound for anti-spasmatic medications. But for the most part I think that media scare has led to certain plants having a black mark. Often they try and stigmatize all garden salvias because of S. divinatorum from S. America, which is not at all a common garden salvia that people often grow. Yet every summer our local news and newspapers have articles like "Are your kids getting high in the garden: Salvia, Morning Glory and Datura".

    How many of those people know that the Tomato plant (leaves & stems) actually have the same chemicals and are just as toxic as a Datura or Belladona if eaten? There are numerous poisonous and psychoactive common houseplants if one cares to do the research. I just think it's often blown out of porportion and keeps people from enjoying these plants.

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    tomatoes, potatoes and peppers are all related to deadly nightshade. foxgloves(and lillies of the valley?) can cause heart failure. lupines contain alkaloids and thier relitives are called "locoweeds" for good reason.....................there are more, but im in a hurry and those i remember off the top of my head
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