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Thread: Story of how Satan came to be found in the bible?

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    Sorta. God has given us a lot of clues, and a capability to reason out things. However, fully understanding God's motives or choices will remain a enigma as you say. I'm not one to say that I would ever be able to understand everything about someone who could put the entire universe on his finger.
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    I've commited Satan's crime millions of times. He was just a beautiful guy who wanted more glory for himself, and because of that he rejected God. Good and evil can't coexist, so Satan's dying in hell. And I would be dying here on earth if it weren't for God's amazing love for me.

    Satan doesn't provide a balance for God. God was good before he created Satan, he will be good after he's finally destroyed. The universe is in perfect balance when everyone is good and gets along. Satan's evil provides contrast to God's good, but there's only balance if justice is served and Satan is condemned for his sin.

    Hope this helps..
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    It is my opinion that you can have no good without evil. Without evil, the concept of good is null.

    If you can have no good without evil, it must be good to be evil

    I'm just a .. taoist i believe it's called lol.

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    then you're not agnostic, right?

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    Taoism is like a belief. I've always believed in balance in all things and someone called me a Taoist so that works for me. It's like Zen I guess.

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    ^^All very, very interesting disscussions.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Satan is an interesting topic. The Bible's account of him and his origins are split up in several places thought the whole Bible. As others have said, Satan was the top angel, but rebelled against God (don't really know why, but some have suggested the plan to create Humanity is the reason), God casted him out of heaven. Satan fell to earth and established a kingdom here. Since the Creation of man, he has sought to destroy God's relationship with Man. Don't know really why, but I guess it is out of spite.
    ^I really love how the story of Satan is really similar to and reflects the story of Sauron and the other Valar (and their servants) in Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings. In fact, now that I think about it, Satan's story is indirectly reflected in many other works, like poems, additional novels, and video games (Final Fantasy, Tales of Symphonia, etc.).

    Thanks for the responses!!
    -Joel from Southern California


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    I have this question for you first, If you wanted to have free will say go drink? Get high? Or lust over that girl down the block. Is that not you're choice, its you're free will to be drawn to these things?

    If we didn't have free will we would be like ants, or bee's running off of pheromones just doing what is told! if you were to throw free will, the breath of life, the thing NO other animal has on this planet IT changes from Strait up Stone cold person, into a caring, emotional being.

    He gives us this to make a choice to decide, if we want to live for him or live against him. It would be pretty dumb if he just made us AUTOMATICALLY worship him the second we come out of the womb. But he does give us a kind of longing a kind of pull, (some more than others) towards him. You know that "Theirs got to be more to life than this" feeling?

    Basically God gave us free will for a reason, its to give you a choice to love him or leave him. He loves you that much, weather you want to leave him for the worldly things, or go to him and lay it all down.

    Same thing with Satan. God made Satan, he gave him a choice, he let Satan create his kingdom. God doesn't let any thing happen he knows we cant handle. Some times we let the world/Satan get the best of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]If we didn't have free will we would be like ants, or bee's running off of pheromones just doing what is told! if you were to throw free will, the breath of life, the thing NO other animal has on this planet IT changes from Strait up Stone cold person, into a caring, emotional being.
    /\ that's not completely true, many animals care for each other and they're young, some care even more than humans. Such as the Pacific Giant octopus, which sits guarding it's eggs for months without eating, and usually dies. Like dogs, who commonly show affection to their owners, other people, and other dogs.

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